StLunatic88 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 9 minutes ago, topwop1 said: We can all criticize him for the Waldron hire but pretty sure 90% of ppl were happy about that hire at the time Shane Waldron was for sure the consensus most logical hire for the Bears. A proven guy, who had helped resurrect Geno’s career to st ran a similar enough offense that it didn’t need to be whole sale changes on that side of the ball. I personally had pitched Clint Kubiak in my mock, but that’s because I didn’t think we could get Waldron. And even with the Clint pick, I can recognize that he wouldn’t be doing things here that he did to start the Saints season. It has to do with the OL they have on top of an established QB and some great weapons. Just like I said when questioned on it, I have not changed my overall opinion on this team, or its coaching staff or its front office. I have some outstanding questions still, but as I said during the game, you can see the rough edges of it. The 4th Quarter against TEN. The last 20 min today. It’s there with the Offense, they just have to get rid of the bad tendencies, get more comfortable with what Waldron is calling, and just execute some of the plays that they are bumbling. We do that, it gives the defense an extra bit of breathing room, and we are on the right track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 9 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: No one said Eberflus is a great coach after the TEN game. They said he's a great defensive coach which I believe he is. Despite what the message board guy promises us, I'm not sure Eberflus knew right away that they had to go for 2. On Hard Knocks they showed him sitting with Caleb one on one quite often. You can't do that but then "hand it all over to Waldron" so your believers have someone else to blame. He's the HC. Lovie got axed for the same thing: an inability to hire a good offensive staff Yes and? I would expect any head coach whether from a Defensive or offensive background to be fully invested in his players. Flus owns responsibility for the hiring of Waldron but I don’t know what he has to do with Waldron choosing to run 4 straight runs inside the 5 yard line, including a wildcat and option play. What are we talking about here as the reason for the Bears loss today? The wasted timeout on the 2 pt attempt was dumb but at the end of the day they got bailed out by the Colts and still had a chance to stop them and get ball back to try at a game winning drive but they didn't so end of story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epyon Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, Madmike90 said: This is why we had to move off of Fields... Caleb is going to be a star in this league when he gets a bit more protection and an OC who isn't trying to outsmart everyone else. This is honestly the best thing to come out of today, something you can link at all the trolls who keep running around "BUT FIELDS"ing every single play/game result, because they're still bitter we launched a bad quarterback from the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 8 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Yes and? I would expect any head coach whether from a Defensive or offensive background to be fully invested in his players. Flus owns responsibility for the hiring of Waldron but I don’t know what he has to do with Waldron choosing to run 4 straight runs inside the 5 yard line, including a wildcat and option play. What are we talking about here as the reason for the Bears loss today? The wasted timeout on the 2 pt attempt was dumb but at the end of the day they got bailed out by the Colts and still had a chance to stop them and get ball back to try at a game winning drive but they didn't so end of story What he has to do with those 4 play calls? He's the head coach. He hears what's being called. He has the most power to say "no, do X or Y instead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: What he has to do with those 4 play calls? He's the head coach. He hears what's being called. He has the most power to say "no, do X or Y instead" Since when do head coaches overrule what their coordinators call unless they are the play caller themselves? You think it's a good idea for your boss to micromanage you and not let you do what you were hired to do, especially this early on into the work relationship? That's a sure fire way to undermine your team members and dis establish trust early on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowler1215 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 The Colts had the worst run defense in the league. We run the ball 28 times for 63 yards. Caleb was 33/52. IMO those numbers should be closer to reversed. 80 offensive plays, it should have been closer to 50 runs, 30 passes. Jonathan Taylor has 23 runs himself, Swift or RJ should have had that many. Caleb is looking better at times. He and Rome should be a solid combo for years to come. 2 of our first 3 picks next year need to be on the O-line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 13 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Since when do head coaches overrule what their coordinators call unless they are the play caller themselves? You think it's a good idea for your boss to micromanage you and not let you do what you were hired to do, especially this early on into the work relationship? That's a sure fire way to undermine your team members and dis establish trust early on. If my employees were terrible for 2 straight weeks and in week 3 they were terrible still, yes I'd feel ok walking over and saying "hey maybe one throw here? maybe not the option on the 1?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 28 minutes ago, topwop1 said: Since when do head coaches overrule what their coordinators call unless they are the play caller themselves? Could you even imagine suggesting this the other way? Andy Reid shuffles over to Steve Spagnulo on an important 3rd down stop and just cuts in “uh fellas, I’m pretty sure we should run a cover 3 shell with a delayed weakside backer blitz” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdonnelly21 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 7 hours ago, SodeeWater_Cheezburger said: Excellent points! There were definitely some positives we can take away from this game, even though we also got the L. We'll get there. Da Bears. Yessir. I'm just glad that Caleb still has a LONG way to a go and looked pretty solid today. That gives a huge light at the end of the tunnel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegurubear Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 I had hopes we would win the game but am happy to see a bears qb throw for over 350 maybe next games its with no ints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 That play where Jaylon hurt his groin two hand touching Richardson OOB was fortuitous that he didn’t lay the wood cause Richardson was bearing down like a freight train. Would rather not lose JJ for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 We got every break in this game and still lost. But still positives from a quick first watch: Caleb and Odunze showed flashes that they are legit good despite multiple mistakes. Roschon showed that he can play and so did Herbert. Not sure why they have been riding pine so much. Kmet played good. Oline played better. Biggest negative: It feels like we are on an OC merry go round again with a young QB. I lost a lot of faith in Waldron as of yesterday. Not just yesterday, but totality of decision making to this point. It’s great that defensive HCs have success and you can point to that. I just don’t believe it is way to go in modern NFL. I think we screwed up. Give me LaFluer or Shanahan or Reid or O’Connell or McVay or Harbaugh over any of the defensive HCs in league right now. And the Vikings DC may be best in league at his job. But I don’t want him as a HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, dll2000 said: We got every break in this game and still lost. We did? A "forward progress" call to negate the INT, a "non" forward progress call at the goal line and a tip drill INT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StLunatic88 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 7 minutes ago, dll2000 said: It’s great that defensive HCs have success and you can point to that. I just don’t believe it is way to go in modern NFL. If that were the case, we wouldnt see any HC come from the defensive ranks. Heck if that were the case, we would never see a defensive guy even interviewed for a HC spot. If that were the case the It wouldnt work anywhere, except it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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