incognito_man Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Again, who cares? BREAKING NEWS: Fans were optimistic about their team! So were Bears fans, Viking fans, Giants fans, etc... You're either tanking or optimistic as a fan before the season. This is such a weird take to have. Try to shove our faces in it because we were optimistic. Next year I'll be sure to post, "well if x,y,z happen to occur, the Packers will be good, BUT let me make sure I also quantify that if a,b,c occur instead, the Packers will be bad." I think most of us did that anyway. The obvious caveats for this year (in my opinion) were OL and Joe Barry. Both of which have severely underwhelmed. Barry, predictably. The OL is more of a surprise (to me). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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packfanfb Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Again, who cares? BREAKING NEWS: Fans were optimistic about their team! So were Bears fans, Viking fans, Giants fans, etc... You're either tanking or optimistic as a fan before the season. This is such a weird take to have. Try to shove our faces in it because we were optimistic. Next year I'll be sure to post, "well if x,y,z happen to occur, the Packers will be good, BUT let me make sure I also quantify that if a,b,c occur instead, the Packers will be bad." It's not about shoving it in people's faces because I'd be shoving it into my own face. I drank the cool-aid too. It's about identifying the problems, or perhaps for some, even admitting some of the problems. I would think those are legitimate topics to discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, packfanfb said: It's not about shoving it in people's faces because I'd be shoving it into my own face. I drank the cool-aid too. It's about identifying the problems, or perhaps for some, even admitting some of the problems. I would think those are legitimate topics to discuss. I think the biggest problem is that fans want their team to be good so they ignore potential flaws. We clearly ignored how hard it is for a game where offense that relies on rhythm and timing to just magically start off on fire. I also think if you would've said going into week 1, Doubs and Watson would be hurt, and leaving week 1, Bakh would be done for the year and Jones would have an injury lingering into Nov, we'd have quickly moved off the hype train. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I think the biggest problem is that fans want their team to be good so they ignore potential flaws. We clearly ignored how hard it is for a game where offense that relies on rhythm and timing to just magically start off on fire. I also think if you would've said going into week 1, Doubs and Watson would be hurt, and leaving week 1, Bakh would be done for the year and Jones would have an injury lingering into Nov, we'd have quickly moved off the hype train. Losing BAK sure was a setback....no question about it....but perhaps given his recent injury hassles, that could have been predicted more than the IOL's (apparent) disintegration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 49 minutes ago, Leader said: The UFA that I'd like back might be Ford. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Leader said: I think Ford is the best of the bunch and I don't really want to pay him big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: Ladies and gentlemen, please make sure your seat backs and tray tables are in their full upright position as we begin our descent. Thank you. Looks like the GB special teams curse has claimed our beloved coach Bisaccia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I think Ford is the best of the bunch and I don't really want to pay him big money. safeties really have been taking their lumps in FA. might be the RB of the defense in terms of contracts being "too cheap" If we want Ford back I'm sure we can have him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, incognito_man said: I think most of us did that anyway. The obvious caveats for this year (in my opinion) were OL and Joe Barry. Both of which have severely underwhelmed. Barry, predictably. The OL is more of a surprise (to me). The expectations for the defense were always the weirdest thing for me about the pre-season optimism. I never understood it. The defense is exactly what I expected it to be. Maybe that's why it's not bothering me all that much. This is what they will be until Barry is replaced. Even with the Bak injury, the play of the OL is kind of shocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: The expectations for the defense were always the weirdest thing for me about the pre-season optimism. I never understood it. The defense is exactly what I expected it to be. Maybe that's why it's not bothering me all that much. This is what they will be until Barry is replaced. Even with the Bak injury, the play of the OL is kind of shocking. 100% Team hasn't stopped the run since AJ Hawk. Most of the "talent" that was supposed to overcome the DC deficiency is also pretty overrated or not yet matured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: safeties really have been taking their lumps in FA. might be the RB of the defense in terms of contracts being "too cheap" If we want Ford back I'm sure we can have him It's pretty bleak in that safety room, and looks to be barren in 2024. Hopefully they can work something out with him and then draft a safety or two. I think he's played pretty well during his time in GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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