packfanfb Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Pugger said: Oh yeah, I forgot he had a injury thing. What was it? He's coming off surgeries for his knee and ankle I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Matthews visited a bunch of teams and has serious medical issues. The Patriots didn't sign him for pennies just because they're geniuses and we're "asleep at the wheel." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackFan4Life Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Lodestar said: Matthews visited a bunch of teams and has serious medical issues. The Patriots didn't sign him for pennies just because they're geniuses and we're "asleep at the wheel." This. But speaking to truth rationally around here is not the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Lodestar said: Matthews visited a bunch of teams and has serious medical issues. The Patriots didn't sign him for pennies just because they're geniuses and we're "asleep at the wheel." That they signed him for 170k gtd means we should have done it if we could and means it's a good move. 170k gtd accounts for the injury risk. if the injuries don't come around, then you have lost 0.17M against the cap which is nothing. If they do come around then you have a bona fide NFL Low end 2nd high end 3rd WR. BTW, I'm not a matthews fan as far as his fit on this squad. Think he's a slot only guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Vince Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I doubt if we'll ever sign another FA with medical flags thanks to Marty B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 hours ago, PackFan4Life said: This. But speaking to truth rationally around here is not the norm. 170k guaranteed, that's pretty damn good. Injuries or not there's no risk, if we passed on that we're fools. Although with the Cooks trade I think it's more than likely he simply chose them over us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: 170k guaranteed, that's pretty damn good. Injuries or not there's no risk, if we passed on that we're fools. Although with the Cooks trade I think it's more than likely he simply chose them over us. Do we know definitively that GB made an offer? If anyone here knows for sure, please let us know. Until then, what’s “foolish” is speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Sasquatch said: Do we know definitively that GB made an offer? If anyone here knows for sure, please let us know. Until then, what’s “foolish” is speculation. That's what the "if" is for is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: That's what the "if" is for is it not? I highlighted it, so yes, I saw it and I know what it means. Moving on from your “if” comment, my personal take on this situation is this: I’m giving the Green Bay Packers the benefit of the doubt here. And unless I hear otherwise, I’m not inclined to even speculate for a second that I know more about Matthews or his medical situation than the good folks at 1265, much less speculate whether GB made an offer or decided to take a pass. From what I’ve read, all we fans really know is that he flew to GB, met with the team, and left without an offer. I trust that if Gute passed on an offer, he had good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 New England is far more hard up for WR's than we are. They traded away Cooks because that situation didn't work out, they lost Amendola, Edelman is coming back from a serious injury so you don't know what you have with him until you see him play AND he's no spring chicken, Malcolm Mitchell was banged up as well last year and put on IR, and you have Chris Hogan who is a possession receiver. Frankly, they have no true WR1 and now they're without their starting LT. Desperation signing if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 50 minutes ago, Joe said: New England is far more hard up for WR's than we are. They traded away Cooks because that situation didn't work out, they lost Amendola, Edelman is coming back from a serious injury so you don't know what you have with him until you see him play AND he's no spring chicken, Malcolm Mitchell was banged up as well last year and put on IR, and you have Chris Hogan who is a possession receiver. Frankly, they have no true WR1 and now they're without their starting LT. Desperation signing if you ask me... They've never had a true WR1 since Moss. They get by with guys like Matthews. They also have 3-4 other guys who are similar value guys like Britt/Dorsett/Mitchell and one of them will work out. 1 hour ago, Sasquatch said: I highlighted it, so yes, I saw it and I know what it means. Moving on from your “if” comment, my personal take on this situation is this: I’m giving the Green Bay Packers the benefit of the doubt here. And unless I hear otherwise, I’m not inclined to even speculate for a second that I know more about Matthews or his medical situation than the good folks at 1265, much less speculate whether GB made an offer or decided to take a pass. From what I’ve read, all we fans really know is that he flew to GB, met with the team, and left without an offer. I trust that if Gute passed on an offer, he had good reason. benefit of what doubt, that it wasn't worth risking 170k gtd? I'll take that lotto ticket This team started out making moves and then proceeded to sit on their hands and 9M in cap room. Making very little sense. Who cares if we're speculating. It's boring to simply say they know more. Of course they know more, but it doesn't mean they made the right hypothetical call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, skibrett15 said: They've never had a true WR1 since Moss. They get by with guys like Matthews. They also have 3-4 other guys who are similar value guys like Britt/Dorsett/Mitchell and one of them will work out. benefit of what doubt, that it wasn't worth risking 170k gtd? I'll take that lotto ticket This team started out making moves and then proceeded to sit on their hands and 9M in cap room. Making very little sense. Who cares if we're speculating. It's boring to simply say they know more. Of course they know more, but it doesn't mean they made the right hypothetical call. You don’t know a g** d**n thing, other than he came, they saw, he left! How do you know they didn’t make an offer? How do you know “they’re sitting on their hands”? You don’t! For that money, I would have paid for Matthews to come here, but I’m sure as he!! not stupid enough to proclaim that 1265 made a mistake when we have no idea what they tried or didn’t try. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegybomb Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 He's probably not giving them the randy moss discount. Dude hasn't been paid yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Jaegybomb said: He's probably not giving them the randy moss discount. Dude hasn't been paid yet. What Randy Moss discount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegybomb Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Moss chose to play for NE for 3 mil over sticking with OAK for 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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