Mr Anonymous Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kepler said: I mean, I think everyone's aware of your displeasure at this point. What else do you want? In case you hadn't noticed I'm just replying to things directed at me. If you don't wanna hear it, stop sending replies my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcerb44 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Mr Anonymous said: You go effing cite everything you say. It's well known that most draft picks don't pan out as hoped. 50% of 1st rounders alone are busts. If you don't know that, go back under your rock. Seriously, then what is your point? The guys you liked probably would have busted too. They may not have been BPA either. You keep asserting the picks we made weren’t. Either back that up or retract that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpdaly23 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Mr Anonymous said: You go effing cite everything you say. It's well known that most draft picks don't pan out as hoped. 50% of 1st rounders alone are busts. If you don't know that, go back under your rock. So... tell us how Gutekunst SHOULD have fixed DB, with a little more detail than “trades and FA”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Most draft picks don’t pan out guys. We clearly need to hope the Packers get this and immediately take the Washington route, signing many free agents. Otherwise it’s time to fire up the hashtags and see if Norm can get another firegute.com site going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 It's ridiculous to say both of these guys were purely need picks. They are some of the best CBs in the draft. You know there is a such thing as a combination of need AND great value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'm going back to being pissed we didn't have a 3rd round pick. It's more satisfying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, CWood21 said: So you believe that Gute drafted for need, not BPA? What basis are you making this conclusion on? The fact we struck out in free agency in acquiring some of our higher rated targets at CB added to the fact that in my opinion as well as that of many others publicized in many places, there were better players available who didn't happen to play CB and thus weren't as convenient to select. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpdaly23 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Gopackgonerd said: It's ridiculous to say both of these guys were purely need picks. They are some of the best CBs in the draft. You know there is a such thing as a combination of need AND great value. Maybe he believes any pick at a position of weakness MUST be indicative of straying from BPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Mr Anonymous said: The fact we struck out in free agency in acquiring some of our higher rated targets at CB added to the fact that in my opinion as well as that of many others publicized in many places, there were better players available who didn't happen to play CB and thus weren't as convenient to select. So nothing but speculation? I mean, it wasn't like they took someone who was ranked in the 100+ range consistently. We're talking about a guy who was pegged to the Packers at 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakeshoppe Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Mr Anonymous said: You go effing cite everything you say. It's well known that most draft picks don't pan out as hoped. 50% of 1st rounders alone are busts. If you don't know that, go back under your rock. no? What is your definition of busting? nearly 20% of first round picks get all-pro honors at some point in their career. Almost 40% will make the probowl during their career. If you think 50% of first round picks bust, your standards are unreasonably high. I don't care about literally citing your posts, but you are just making up claims and then saying they are statistically supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, dcerb44 said: Seriously, then what is your point? The guys you liked probably would have busted too. They may not have been BPA either. You keep asserting the picks we made weren’t. Either back that up or retract that statement. You stand a much better chance of hitting on a pick by taking the best player available regardless of position. That's how you get fewer busts. You exponentially increase your chances of picking busts by drafting for need. And because of this night, I'm never going to let anyone forget it when Derwin James and Tremaine Edmunds vastly outplay Jaire Alexander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, cannondale said: I'm going back to being pissed we didn't have a 3rd round pick. It's more satisfying Had I known that's all it would take I would have said it earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: In case you hadn't noticed I'm just replying to things directed at me. If you don't wanna hear it, stop sending replies my way. Gotcha. I get you're angry and feel the need to lash out. Carry on good sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Should somebody mention to this dude that his beloved James and Edmunds...could be busts too? Or does this higher tier they are on like, automatically protect them from bustdom? So confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaitWhat Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The Browns have taken the supposed best player available numerous times. That’s definitely worked out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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