MacReady Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, dafreak said: We will agree to disagree. I think we all would agree that we would give up a 1st rounder for Mack. One player for another, simple as that. Agree to disagree because you're wrong and don't understand simple math? Two first round picks is being reported everywhere. Let's go with what you said to make this equation simple. The Bears get MACK. The Raiders get two first round picks and a third round pick. That's not the Raiders getting a first and a third for Mack. That's the Raiders getting two firsts and a third for Mack. You can say it's like getting a first round pick early all you want. That doesn't change the fact that that first round pick was a part of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dafreak Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: Agree to disagree because you're wrong and don't understand simple math? Two first round picks is being reported everywhere. Let's go with what you said to make this equation simple. The Bears get MACK. The Raiders get two first round picks and a third round pick. That's not the Raiders getting a first and a third for Mack. That's the Raiders getting two firsts and a third for Mack. You can say it's like getting a first round pick early all you want. That doesn't change the fact that that first round pick was a part of the trade. Of course it was part of the trade. The Bears traded next years first for Mack and then sweetened it with another 1st and 3rd. So basically, they got next years 1st rounder a year early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, dafreak said: Of course it was part of the trade. The Bears traded next years first for Mack and then sweetened it with another 1st and 3rd. So basically, they got next years 1st rounder a year early. You realize you aren't making any sense right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Norm said: You realize you aren't making any sense right? Makes complete sense to me. Instead of drafting in the 1st round next year they traded that chip for Mack. No brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, dafreak said: Of course it was part of the trade. The Bears traded next years first for Mack and then sweetened it with another 1st and 3rd. So basically, they got next years 1st rounder a year early. No, they didn't. A first round pick is a player you expect to be the face of your franchise for ten years with the first five years costing very little in terms of value. Mack is going to be the face of their franchise for the next five years at 22 million a year. You're also not considering that the Bears don't know what pick they're giving away is. The Bears were 8th in points allowed last year. They won 5 games with a third year head coach. Regardless of the semantics issue of this, it's not getting a first round pick a year early. There's a reason there are very few first round picks traded for players. There's a reason there are even less trades for two first round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, dafreak said: Makes complete sense to me. Instead of drafting in the 1st round next year they traded that chip for Mack. No brainer. I mean, some people think the Earth being flat makes sense too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Norm said: You realize you aren't making any sense right? forget it, he's rolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Can we fire Gute for not "getting this done?" Why did he "sit on his hands" while the rest of the division "uses all avenues to get better" and he is just going to rely on "undrafted free agents from directional state college." We need to "make a splash" to "put us over the top" otherwise we're just "wasting Rodgers prime " Right guys?? RIGHT???! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 For real though, there's a possibility they just traded 2 quarters and a dime for a quarter. Or they traded 2 pennies and some lint for a quarter. Opportunity cost is any of that at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: No, they didn't. A first round pick is a player you expect to be the face of your franchise for ten years with the first five years costing very little in terms of value. Mack is going to be the face of their franchise for the next five years at 22 million a year. You're also not considering that the Bears don't know what pick they're giving away is. The Bears were 8th in points allowed last year. They won 5 games with a third year head coach. Regardless of the semantics issue of this, it's not getting a first round pick a year early. There's a reason there are very few first round picks traded for players. There's a reason there are even less trades for two first round picks. Most NFL draft picks are busts: 16.7% Didn’t Play for the Team that Drafted Them. 37% Were Considered “Useless” 15.3% Were Considered “Poor” 10.5% Were Considered “Average” 12.3% - Were Considered “Good” 6.9% Were Considered “Great” 1% Were Considered “Legendary” Overall This Shows How Difficult It Is To Draft Well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Norm said: Wait, we will don't actually know what they gave I thought it was a 2019 1st, a 2020 1st, and a 2020 3rd. So the Bears have 2 premium (i.e. day 1 or 2) picks in the next two drafts- a 3rd in 2019 and a 2nd in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, HighCalebR said: For real though, there's a possibility they just traded 2 quarters and a dime for a quarter. Or they traded 2 pennies and some lint for a quarter. Opportunity cost is any of that at this point. They basically traded a 5th for an early 7th that's a first next year for a guaranteed player a year after before a first season draft this year 4th round pick then 1st is early next year. It makes sense to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Gimme the numbers on players traded for two first round draft picks and a third (which is minimum we're talking here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Im not sure where you would put Mack in that category but I would say at least "Great"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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