buno67 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said: Sachi inherited an old expensive ineffective team. The Ray Farmer era set the team back 5 years. Dorsey inherited an incompetent coach with a good young roster apart from QB, with possibly due best bounty of cap and draft picks ever. This will never be the house that Dorsey built. That said retrospectively Sachi could of done a lot better, Haden, McCown, Osweiler, and he may of missed on mor picks than Dorsey. How will it not be the house Dorsey built? Dorsey has already turned over more than half the roster. Has potentially drafted the franchise quarterback the franchise corner found a franchise left tackle Future starting running back wide receiver. This rookie class might go down as the best class In Browns history. Really don’t see Sashi having that much success if he was in charge still. We will never know what could have been. Dorsey success Can be accredited To Highsmith and Wolfe because they are pretty great when it comes to evaluating personnel. I just know there would be no way in hell Sashi Could have put a front office together like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: Don't waste your time Buno. We have gone round and round about this... Just nod and say Sashi is the best ever....even tho we know he was a failure. Not a total failure Just was way over his head in the beginning. He should’ve never gone from a cap guy to GM. He probably would be an awesome assistant GM and maybe become a full-time GM down the road. He was great at some things and god awful at others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, buno67 said: How will it not be the house Dorsey built? Dorsey has already turned over more than half the roster. Has potentially drafted the franchise quarterback the franchise corner found a franchise left tackle Future starting running back wide receiver. This rookie class might go down as the best class In Browns history. Really don’t see Sashi having that much success if he was in charge still. We will never know what could have been. Dorsey success Can be accredited To Highsmith and Wolfe because they are pretty great when it comes to evaluating personnel. I just know there would be no way in hell Sashi Could have put a front office together like that All the $$$$ and all the picks come from Sachi. Dorsey will be remembered as a great gm if he can keep getting/hitting on draft picks and good fa signings, if he can’t keep the team talented then he will of squandered what Sachi gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Kiwibrown said: All the $$$$ and all the picks come from Sachi. Dorsey will be remembered as a great gm if he can keep getting/hitting on draft picks and good fa signings, if he can’t keep the team talented then he will of squandered what Sachi gave him. They money came because he stripped the team and let every good FA walk. Any GM can sit back and do nothing. And the picks came because he decided to not draft one of the best QBs in the league and instead draft a WR who’s out of the league. Sashi was nothing special. Only good move he made was trading for Brock and a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 hours ago, sdrawkcab321 said: starting to question Dorsey’s genius for not firing this guy already He can't. Hueball reports to the Haslams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 The right answer was to combine Sashi's talent with Dorsey's. The "Genius of the AND" as Jim Collins coined it in his book Built to Last. Probably unfathomable to the Haslams, especially with Hueball stabbing Sashi in the back and whispering sweet nothings into Dee's ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, bruceb said: The right answer was to combine Sashi's talent with Dorsey's. The "Genius of the AND" as Jim Collins coined it in his book Built to Last. Probably unfathomable to the Haslams, especially with Hueball stabbing Sashi in the back and whispering sweet nothings into Dee's ears. They would be a great combo. Hopefully depodesta still has influence from an analytics perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 6 hours ago, big poppa pump said: Don't waste your time Buno. We have gone round and round about this... Just nod and say Sashi is the best ever....even tho we know he was a failure. (I hope I don't regret saying this) That's an adult film star. ...Oh, and nice use of the guy in the GIF, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 11 hours ago, bruceb said: The right answer was to combine Sashi's talent with Dorsey's. The "Genius of the AND" as Jim Collins coined it in his book Built to Last. Probably unfathomable to the Haslams, especially with Hueball stabbing Sashi in the back and whispering sweet nothings into Dee's ears. Agreed. Sashi should have been promoted to a management/VP role and Dorsey given control of the 53. Sashi was the first guy in 2 decades who had what appeared to be a long term plan in place. And for all the ish he gets about his drafting, he looks like he’s nabbed 2 Pro Bowlers already (Schobert and Garrett), Ogunjobi looks like he may be on his way and there too. Then there are high ceiling guys like Peppers and Njoku who are still just 22. Either way, 2-3 pro bowlers (potentially more) in 2 draft classes isn’t too shabby imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 hours ago, MistaBohmbastic said: (I hope I don't regret saying this) That's an adult film star. So that’s what you’re paying attention to eh? The dudes faces? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistaBohmbastic Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: So that’s what you’re paying attention to eh? The dudes faces? ? I wouldn't call it "paying attention," but it's certainly noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: All the $$$$ and all the picks come from Sachi. Dorsey will be remembered as a great gm if he can keep getting/hitting on draft picks and good fa signings, if he can’t keep the team talented then he will of squandered what Sachi gave him. Yeah why did sashi have all this money? Oh yeah he let Mack, Schwartz, Gipson, and TBen all walk away from the team. So the guys actually worth paying, he didn’t bother with. Let talent walk away cause he was afraid of the franchise tag or throwing contracts around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 13 hours ago, bruceb said: He can't. Hueball reports to the Haslams. Or he lets Hue keep digging his hole so he can fire Hue soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: So that’s what you’re paying attention to eh? The dudes faces? ? I'm more about script, lighting and musical accompaniment--who's not a sucker for a well-timed saxophone solo?--but to each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: I'm more about script, lighting and musical accompaniment--who's not a sucker for a well-timed saxophone solo?--but to each their own. Exactly!!!! It’a all about the cinematography! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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