redsoxsuck05 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, mse326 said: Nothing wrong with using WAR as a guide. And when was he ever considered better than Honus Wagner? You can find plenty of anecdotes and quotes about Maranville as a fielder (and technically he had better defensive "stats" than Wagner). I'm not really concerned with the WAR of players who were voted into the HOF 80 year ago tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 minute ago, redsoxsuck05 said: You can find plenty of anecdotes and quotes about Maranville as a fielder (and technically he had better defensive "stats" than Wagner). I'm not really concerned with the WAR of players who were voted into the HOF 80 year ago tbh. Oh best defensive short stop. I thought you meant just short stop in general since, you know, that is what you typed. I'm not sure what you are getting at with the last part. WAR is scaled to era. If they had low WAR it means they weren't among the best of their era. If you are going to say whether they do or don't belong in the hall seems like a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, mse326 said: Oh best defensive short stop. I thought you meant just short stop in general since, you know, that is what you typed. I'm not sure what you are getting at with the last part. WAR is scaled to era. If they had low WAR it means they weren't among the best of their era. If you are going to say whether they do or don't belong in the hall seems like a good place to start. I already knew what your response would be, I just think it's silly to judge the HOF for how they evaluated players such as Maranville in 1954. BTW I see it all the time when people say "best <position>" they're referring to their defense. It's fair to be confused, but no sane person will argue that he was a better player than Honus Wagner lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 hour ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Let alone using WAR. I think Maranville was voted in because he was considered the greatest SS of all time and a legendary troll. He also died young a few months before the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 hours ago, jrry32 said: He also died young a few months before the vote. Yeah it was a shame, too, since it was actually duck season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Is this Machado **** happening or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLO Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The angels have had a hell of an offseason in preparation for the 2013 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, TLO said: The angels have had a hell of an offseason in preparation for the 2013 season. Hey it's not like they're wasting the entire career of one of the 5 best players in the history of the sport or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Hey it's not like they're wasting the entire career of one of the 5 best players in the history of the sport or anything. Don't worry, Pujols already got his rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 16 hours ago, mission27 said: Is this Machado **** happening or what Neither Harper nor Machado is going to make a decision until after the holidays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Seattle closing in on signing Kikuchi per Yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, Forge said: Seattle closing in on signing Kikuchi per Yahoo Head scratcher for him. They aren't winning anything but they've got an established culture for Japanese players and a huge expat community so I suppose from a life decision it's not a bad call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The **** did my thread get deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles27 Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, mission27 said: The **** did my thread get deleted You started a thread saying Machado signed with the Yankees without an actual source. Even if it ends up being true, don't start a thread until an agreement is reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Head scratcher for him. They aren't winning anything but they've got an established culture for Japanese players and a huge expat community so I suppose from a life decision it's not a bad call. well what is more important for a player leaving japan to come to MLB. Playing in MLB or winning a world series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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