Elky Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, SDotNova said: I don't get why Gruden is shopping him around. Even if he hasn't been a number 1 WR, he still a starting WR in the NFL. You need 3 of those. He's shopping him because he isn't going to pick up the fifth year option; Cooper is an average WR who is borderline bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The Raiders will regret it if they trade Cooper. That kid would be a stud with a team like the Rams, Saints, Eagles, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 54 minutes ago, Danger said: At this point you have to believe that Gruden's plan of attack is. Jason Garrett is gonna sue you for stealing his catch phrase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 hours ago, BayRaider said: Jay Glazer reports Raiders have called multiple teams regarding trading Amari Cooper and Karl Joseph. No surprise here. It was apparent when Gruden traded Mack we are cleaning house and starting from scratch. Cooper has not played like a 1st Round WR for us and we’ve made him our #1 for four years. He’s very inconsistent. I do think Cooper can thrive on another team. Karl Joseph has been a bust for us, but I also think he can thrive on another team. I also think we are gonna trade Carr to NYG for a 2nd Round pick in the off season. We’ll see. Carr with all those weapons.. yikes! They would definitey need to draft a T though... again... Carr needs supreme protection. I’d rather Mariota thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, jrry32 said: The Raiders will regret it if they trade Cooper. That kid would be a stud with a team like the Rams, Saints, Eagles, etc. Agreed. I think the ideal trade is Coop to San Fran for their 2nd. He would be perfect for Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy G. Its a high 2nd round pick which pleases the Raiders seeing as Cooper has been inconsistent over the years (not entirely his fault overall, but his hands aren't the best). There's no effing way I'd stay with the Raiders if I'm Cooper. He's been thoroughly misused over the years. And Gruden showed he won't pay market value for a top 3 defender in the league who was consistently a game wrecker for opposing teams. There's no reason to think he would for a receiver who has disappeared at times (again not 100% his fault). And the deep irony here is Coop and Mack have the same agent LOL Also, whoever I argued with early on to give Gruden more time: he's had more time. Dude sucks. Humble pie served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Agreed. I think the ideal trade is Coop to San Fran for their 2nd. He would be perfect for Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy G. Its a high 2nd round pick which pleases the Raiders seeing as Cooper has been inconsistent over the years (not entirely his fault overall, but his hands aren't the best). There's no effing way I'd stay with the Raiders if I'm Cooper. He's been thoroughly misused over the years. And Gruden showed he won't pay market value for a top 3 defender in the league who was consistently a game wrecker for opposing teams. There's no reason to think he would for a receiver who has disappeared at times (again not 100% his fault). And the deep irony here is Coop and Mack have the same agent LOL Also, whoever I argued with early on to give Gruden more time: he's had more time. Dude sucks. Humble pie served. I will scream if we give up a second for Cooper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 Top 5 2nd for Cooper would be a steal. Don’t worry, John Lynch isn’t that dumb. He might offer a 3rd though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Silver&Black88 said: Agreed. I think the ideal trade is Coop to San Fran for their 2nd. He would be perfect for Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy G. Its a high 2nd round pick which pleases the Raiders seeing as Cooper has been inconsistent over the years (not entirely his fault overall, but his hands aren't the best). There's no effing way I'd stay with the Raiders if I'm Cooper. He's been thoroughly misused over the years. And Gruden showed he won't pay market value for a top 3 defender in the league who was consistently a game wrecker for opposing teams. There's no reason to think he would for a receiver who has disappeared at times (again not 100% his fault). And the deep irony here is Coop and Mack have the same agent LOL Also, whoever I argued with early on to give Gruden more time: he's had more time. Dude sucks. Humble pie served. Grudens building from scratch. He can’t be fairly analyzed until four years imo. Why Mark Davis gave him GM capabilities to begin with I do not know though.. shoulda hired Jim Schwartz imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Top 5 2nd for Cooper would be a steal. Don’t worry, John Lynch isn’t that dumb. He might offer a 3rd though. Cooper, like Robert Woods, is being badly misused. Put him in the right offense, and he'll take off. Cooper can win with vertical speed and route running. The drops are an issue, but they'd be less of an issue elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 14, 2018 Author Share Posted October 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Cooper, like Robert Woods, is being badly misused. Put him in the right offense, and he'll take off. Cooper can win with vertical speed and route running. The drops are an issue, but they'd be less of an issue elsewhere. Cool, your 2nd please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Cool, your 2nd please. Two issues: 1. No 2nd 2. We already have three stud WRs signed for at least a couple more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, Elky said: He's shopping him because he isn't going to pick up the fifth year option; Cooper is an average WR who is borderline bad. Cooper has been getting open from what I have seen, he just not getting the ball. Put him on a team like GB, NO, or even Indy and no one is saying he is a bad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Browns desperately need a WR like Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, pnies20 said: Browns desperately need a WR like Cooper Pssh, we don't need him. We just signed Breshad Perriman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver&Black88 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Forge said: I will scream if we give up a second for Cooper. Well, respectfully, I hope you end up screaming then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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