Texansfan713 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, MSURacerDT55 said: He wasn't injured either, and Bosa could easily go #1 key word is "could". he aint a lock. oliver better anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: key word is "could". he aint a lock. oliver better anyway. Says you, which means nothing. The expert clearly think otherwise, next...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Yes. By all means let’s turn this into a thread debating which premiere DL prospect is better than the other, at a different position. Insecurities. Goodness. Oliver is great. Not sure why his name needs interjected yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, NateDawg said: Yes. By all means let’s turn this into a thread debating which premiere DL prospect is better than the other, at a different position. Insecurities. Goodness. Oliver is great. Not sure why his name needs interjected yet again. relax..i was joking and being petty. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, NateDawg said: Yes. By all means let’s turn this into a thread debating which premiere DL prospect is better than the other, at a different position. Insecurities. Goodness. Oliver is great. Not sure why his name needs interjected yet again. Just upset his team got caught cheating... /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobikus Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 20 hours ago, LuckIsGOAT said: That's fine but he's full of **** if he ever claimed he was team first or any of that nonsense. What his teammates say in public is fine but if you think privately they dont think he's full of **** you're a fool Being "team first" has always been a dumb media soundbyte. Players need to look out for themselves first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 i really dont know why we continue to engage in this debate because the people who say that he's making the right decision are so obviously right and the people who say he's letting his teammates down are so obviously wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Here's my legitimate question, since he is deciding not to play even if he is medically cleared could the team rescind his scholarship and demand that he pay tuition for this year? I think they should be able to and that they should do it. Regardless on whether or not you think he's doing the right thing for his career the fact is when you sign that loi to play for a school you're signing a contract that states you get free tuition for playing football... Since he's reneging on that contract he should have to pay tuition for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, rob_shadows said: Here's my legitimate question, since he is deciding not to play even if he is medically cleared could the team rescind his scholarship and demand that he pay tuition for this year? I think they should be able to and that they should do it. Regardless on whether or not you think he's doing the right thing for his career the fact is when you sign that loi to play for a school you're signing a contract that states you get free tuition for playing football... Since he's reneging on that contract he should have to pay tuition for this year. He withdrew from school, so he isn’t getting the free education Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobikus Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Also I don't think paying tuition would be a big deal to him anyway. He'll be signing an 8 figure contract soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, rob_shadows said: Here's my legitimate question, since he is deciding not to play even if he is medically cleared could the team rescind his scholarship and demand that he pay tuition for this year? I think they should be able to and that they should do it. Regardless on whether or not you think he's doing the right thing for his career the fact is when you sign that loi to play for a school you're signing a contract that states you get free tuition for playing football... Since he's reneging on that contract he should have to pay tuition for this year. Did you take the time to think about what that would do the relationship with the Bosa family if they try that BS you speak of? What if they had another kid coming through the pipeline, do you think they would send their kid to tOSU? What about the relationship between tOSU and St. Thomas Aquinas would they still be inclined to send their kids to tOSU knowing they would try this crap? What if STA starts telling the there schools/prospects to stay away from us. Judging from your post, you probably didn't think about that, what you fail to realize is at this level of football, in order to play at that high of a level, you need elite players, you don't go trying to pull vindictive crap like this just to try to be tough guy and prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, rob_shadows said: Here's my legitimate question, since he is deciding not to play even if he is medically cleared could the team rescind his scholarship and demand that he pay tuition for this year? I think they should be able to and that they should do it. Regardless on whether or not you think he's doing the right thing for his career the fact is when you sign that loi to play for a school you're signing a contract that states you get free tuition for playing football... Since he's reneging on that contract he should have to pay tuition for this year. What about guys who decide to transfer, say a Kelly Bryant? Isnt he breaking the contract? The difference is tho, he is staying in the school to finish out his classes before he transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, MSURacerDT55 said: Did you take the time to think about what that would do the relationship with the Bosa family if they try that BS you speak of? What if they had another kid coming through the pipeline, do you think they would send their kid to tOSU? What about the relationship between tOSU and St. Thomas Aquinas would they still be inclined to send their kids to tOSU knowing they would try this crap? What if STA starts telling the there schools/prospects to stay away from us. Judging from your post, you probably didn't think about that, what you fail to realize is at this level of football, in order to play at that high of a level, you need elite players, you don't go trying to pull vindictive crap like this just to try to be tough guy and prove a point. I don't see it as being vindictive personally, I see it as a legitimate issue of a guy breaking his deal with the school. And as someone else already mentioned it wouldn't even be a big deal for Bosa, I'm sure Joey would have no problem helping little brother cover it until Nick gets drafted and signs his own multi million dollar deal. Plus he wouldn't be paying the full amount anyway, he technically did play this year and you can't fault him for the injury so you could only logically actually go after him from the time he's medically cleared so you're only going to be charging him a percentage of what the tuition would be equal to the amount of time left in the School year when he's medically cleared. 1 hour ago, buno67 said: What about guys who decide to transfer, say a Kelly Bryant? Isnt he breaking the contract? The difference is tho, he is staying in the school to finish out his classes before he transfers. That's actually a good point and I think it's kinda messed up guys are allowed to even do that to begin with, especially now that you no longer have to have permission from your current school to be able to transfer. I think I remember reading that the NCAA was actually considering allowing schools to pull a players scholarship once they find out the player intends to transfer which imo is the right thing. There needs to be accountability anytime a player doesn't fulfill his duties to a school whether it's a case like Bosa or a player who transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, malibuspeedrace said: He withdrew from school, so he isn’t getting the free education Oh I didn't realize he wasn't even going to finish out his classes for the year, if that's the case then yeah it's a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 "Debate" aside, it sucks to hear this injury is much more serious than the initial day-to-day vibe it had. Imagine it will easily be enough to put Oliver ahead of him in the draft, they both are damn near perfect, you'll find any knock you can to justify taking the other and feeling like it is the easy choice. In this case a recent serious injury.... Don't think it effects him beyond that though, like he'll still be a top 5 pick without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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