NYRaider Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 If Zion were putting up these numbers in the league he'd rank: PER: 41.8 - 1st (NBA Leader: Anthony Davis 31.00) TS%: .695 - 4th (NBA Leader: Damian Jones .720) eFG%: .692 - 2nd (NBA Leader: Damian Jones .716) ORating: 134.3 - 1st (NBA Leader: Steph Curry 119.6) DRating: 82.8 - 1st (NBA Leader: Corey Brewer 89.0) Net Rating: 51.5 - 1st (NBA Leader: Corey Brewer: 24.0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, NYRaider said: If Zion were putting up these numbers in the league he'd rank: PER: 41.8 - 1st (NBA Leader: Anthony Davis 31.00) TS%: .695 - 4th (NBA Leader: Damian Jones .720) eFG%: .692 - 2nd (NBA Leader: Damian Jones .716) ORating: 134.3 - 1st (NBA Leader: Steph Curry 119.6) DRating: 82.8 - 1st (NBA Leader: Corey Brewer 89.0) Net Rating: 51.5 - 1st (NBA Leader: Corey Brewer: 24.0) WHOAH!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Player A 26.2 PPG, 12.4 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.3 STL, 1.6 BLK on 53.2/37.9/77.4 shooting .610 TS%, .563 eFG%, .484 FTr Player B 19.5 PPG, 8.3 RPG, 1.1 APG, 1.0 STL, 0.7 BLK on 59.5/56.8/74.6 shooting .690 TS%, .650 eFG%, .871 FTr (holy ****) Player C 20.4 PPG, 9.2 RPG, 6.0 APG, 1.7 STL, 0.9 BLK on 51.9/36.4/75.4 shooting .581 TS%, .540 eFG%, .400 FTr Player D 17.7 PPG, 11.9 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.1 STL, 0.9 BLK on 50.5/50.0/68.2 shooting .549 TS%, .512 eFG%, .462 FTr Player E 16.1 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 1.0 APG, 0.7 STL, 1.2 BLK on 53.3/37.5/70.1 shooting .609 TS%, .580 eFG%, .467 FTr Player F 19.1 PPG, 8.7 RPG, 1.2 APG, 1.1 STL, 1.2 BLK on 47.3/35.8/74.8 shooting .558 TS%, .511 eFG%, .429 FTr Player G 17.3 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 1.3 APG, 0.8 STL, 1.4 BLK on 66.4/0.0/51.0 shooting .641 TS%, .664 eFG%, .462 FTr Player A - Michael Beasley Player B - Derrick Williams Player C - Evan Turner Player D - Thomas Robinson Player E - Anthony Bennett Player F - Jabari Parker Player G - Jahlil Okafor All early lottery picks. All busts. #CollegeStatsDontMatter Edited January 24, 2019 by beekay414 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 3 hours ago, NYRaider said: He's going to absolutely shatter the player efficiency rating record for the NCAA. That stat's been kept for like 10 years, max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I don't know how many times I have to say this for you to grasp it... College. Stats. Do. Not. Matter. In. Evaluations. Sure, you can take them into account and with context but they are nowhere near the top indicator of talent/success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Miami will play themselves out of lottery contention - again. The NBA is the most star-driven sports league; You need STARS to win titles!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, beekay414 said: I don't know how many times I have to say this for you to grasp it... College. Stats. Do. Not. Matter. In. Evaluations. Sure, you can take them into account and with context but they are nowhere near the top indicator of talent/success. Obviously college stats aren't that important in evaluations but from a statistical standpoint Zion is having one of the greatest seasons of all time. Pair that with the fact he's the most physically gifted player to enter the draft since LeBron James 16 years ago and you might be on to something. The only real concern someone could bring up is his shooting, but he's actually flashed as a shooter during ACC play. The "lack of position" concerns are overblown, with the way the league is trending he's the perfect small ball 4 especially with his ability to push the ball in transition. Defensively he'll be able to defend 4's too at 6'7" 270 with a 6'11" WS and elite athleticism. Edited January 24, 2019 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 I don't see how anyone can deny that Zion is a special talent. That handle and first step for a man his size with his athleticism and explosiveness are RARE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Obviously college stats aren't that important in evaluations but from a statistical standpoint Zion is having one of the greatest seasons of all time. Pair that with the fact he's the most physically gifted player to enter the draft since LeBron James 16 years ago and you might be on to something. Yeah, college seasons. The fact you posted his college numbers and ranked those against NBA players... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, seminoles1 said: Yeah, college seasons. The fact you posted his college numbers and ranked those against NBA players... He's a college basketball player, he's 18 years old, so of course he's going to be playing college basketball... The comparison to the NBA numbers was just to give a reference as to how efficient he has been this year. Obviously I know that there's a difference and statistics aren't the only things used in an evaluation because of the difference in level of competition throughout college basketball. Regardless though, can anyone deny that he's having a great year? He's one of the youngest freshmen in the country, he'll be one of the youngest players drafted, and he'll be 19 years old throughout his first season in the league. He is consistently labeled as only an athlete and a dunker but the numbers say otherwise. He's doing what an elite prospect should do, he's dominating in every facet of the game as a freshman. His tape is outstanding and his impact is immesurable. NBA franchises are looking for players with elite upside, who in the draft has a higher upside than Zion? The kid with the best physical profile, best tape, and who just so happens to be one of the youngest players in the class? Even more than that the NBA is still a business first and foremost. Franchises want kids that are marketable and he's without a doubt the most marketable player in the class. I just really can't see how you can deny that he's a special prospect. When was the last time there was a prospect like Zion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Zion is going #1, it's going to be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 So how come people generally speaking aren't higher on Bol Bol? Sincerely someone who is ignorant on draft NBA Draft prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 59 minutes ago, Danger said: So how come people generally speaking aren't higher on Bol Bol? Sincerely someone who is ignorant on draft NBA Draft prospects. There's a few ways to answer this, but tell me from your perspective, where do you think a player of his type fits in the modern NBA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Danger said: So how come people generally speaking aren't higher on Bol Bol? Sincerely someone who is ignorant on draft NBA Draft prospects. cause he is super unathletic lol. also injury concerns but he surprised me how good he was. I'd probably have him like 5-6 on a BB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Danger said: So how come people generally speaking aren't higher on Bol Bol? Sincerely someone who is ignorant on draft NBA Draft prospects. I think he could be selected a lot higher then where he's currently being mocked, it just depends on how he looks in workouts. There are questions about his frame, durability, and mobility. Will he be able to add enough weight to bang down low? Will his frame hold up over the course of a 10+ year career? Is he mobile enough to defend in the modern game where there are a ton of switches? As Ravens said, it's unknown if he fits in the current game but his upside as a Kristapas/Gobert type of player is definitely intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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