sammymvpknight Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Currently Gurley and Goff are among the favorites to be league MVP. But can you be a league MVP if you aren’t even your team MVP? Aaron Donald is the best player in the NFL, and I think he should have a legitimate shot to be the second defensive player in NFL history to win MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Because defense doesn't put butts in seats, and isn't what makes the most money for the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Issue Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Because defenders don't throw the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, sammymvpknight said: Currently Gurley and Goff are among the favorites to be league MVP. But can you be a league MVP if you aren’t even your team MVP? Aaron Donald is the best player in the NFL, and I think he should have a legitimate shot to be the second defensive player in NFL history to win MVP. Donald is the best player in football overall but not the most impactful player that's why he will never win MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 It’s who is most valuable to your team. Without Donald the Rams are probably still 7-1. Without Goff? Probably 4-4. Without Gurley? Maybe 5-3. MVP is all about who creates the most value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, BayRaider said: It’s who is most valuable to your team. Without Donald the Rams are probably still 7-1. Without Goff? Probably 4-4. Without Gurley? Maybe 5-3. MVP is all about who creates the most value. I disagree. Donald is that defense. They struggle stopping people without Donald. If you don’t have Goff you still have a juggernaut offense and still have Gurley. If you don’t have Gurley, you still have a juggernaut offense and still have Goff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 This year in particular several teams don’t even need a defense. Unleash the Dragon and just fling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, DaveDX said: This year in particular several teams don’t even need a defense. Unleash the Dragon and just fling it. The NFL is trying their hardest to devalue the defense in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, sammymvpknight said: I disagree. Donald is that defense. They struggle stopping people without Donald. If you don’t have Goff you still have a juggernaut offense and still have Gurley. If you don’t have Gurley, you still have a juggernaut offense and still have Goff. Oy, the dropoff from Goff to Mannion would be a nightmare. The players at the skill positions won't help him throw accurate passes or read defenses better. Then Gurley would start to see more stacked boxes. Goodnight quality offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Danger said: The NFL is trying their hardest to devalue the defense in general. It’s working. They’ve been chipping away at it for years now and they’ve finally gotten it “right.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, DaveDX said: It’s working. They’ve been chipping away at it for years now and they’ve finally gotten it “right.” Can you really blame them? Ratings are through the roof and Fantasy Football is becoming as big as the sport itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Austin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 They should boot the MVP and all the other awards outside of the rookie awards and do an award for each position like they do in baseball and name if after one of the better players who played the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 If Watt couldn't win it in 2014, no defensive player ever will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 They could, but it would take a lot of things going there way. First, their team would have to field no less than the #3 ranked defense (#1 would be ideal though). Second, they would have to be on a team where the offense wasn't any good and that the defense was the only reason they made the playoffs (2015 Broncos for example). Third, they would have to put up mind-boggling numbers. That rules out anyone that isn't a pass rusher since those are the only guys putting up stats you can see at first glance. You would at the very least have to manage a 2008 James Harrison kind of year (16 sacks min., led league in FFs, dominant against run/pass) and even that might not be enough, but it's possible. Finally, it would have to be a year where there isn't a QB putting up stupid numbers (2008, 2012). Preferably, you would want to avoid a RB having a monster year too. Every single one of those boxes getting checked off in a year is unlikely, but I'm sure it will happen (again) one day. Watt could have won in 2014 if A) Texans made the playoffs and B) their defense had been more dominant. Rodgers had a great season, but it wasn't better than his firs MVP season and Watt had the media hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Because guys who win most valuable player, typically play the most valuable position. If you’re not playing the most valuable position, you’re already playing against the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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