Thaiphoon Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, naptownskinsfan said: And Peyton Manning started 3-13 his first year, starting from Week One. Let them get their lumps in early, have a super solid backup like McCoy to keep their confidence up and also utilize the likely high draft pick the next year as well. I'm with this method of learning. You build the OL, and we have the RB. We have the TEs. And all we need is to keep improving at WR and it makes the transition for the rookie easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, MikeT14 said: It’d be fun to see what would happen if the games were switched too. Colts gets game 1 D. Alex gets game 2 D. Result? 1-1 again. SoAKA not fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Gruden runs a very similar offensive scheme. And you could argue Goff just needed to go through growing pains his first year. Goff was rated by Football Outsiders as having the worst season they’ve ever recorded by a QB with his number of snaps or more IIRC. That’s not just “growing pains”. He would have been ruined had McVay not come to the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, Thaiphoon said: I'm with this method of learning. You build the OL, and we have the RB. We have the TEs. And all we need is to keep improving at WR and it makes the transition for the rookie easier. Yep. You can also build the team around the QB position so when you do draft the QB of the future, they can be plugged in immediately and go from there. We do need some more dynamic playmakers on offense, but we are pretty close on some of the other talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeT14 said: It’d be fun to see what would happen if the games were switched too. Colts gets game 1 D. Alex gets game 2 D. Result? 1-1 again. Smith also had our two starting Guards blocking for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Gruden runs a very similar offensive scheme. And you could argue Goff just needed to go through growing pains his first year. Gruden is not McVay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Goff was rated by Football Outsiders as having the worst season they’ve ever recorded by a QB with his number of snaps or more IIRC. That’s not just “growing pains”. He would have been ruined had McVay not come to the rescue. Ok? Jeff Fisher is awful that's all I take from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: You seriously underestimate how much a QB impacts the rest of the game, without it showing up in the stat sheet. Look at the Eagles defense with Chip Kelly as HC vs the defense once he left. Night and day with largely the same personnel. Why? Mostly because they were on the field far less. When the defense is on the field more, that leads to tired players who make mental mistakes like we saw today. And AP gets more touches if we don’t turn the ball over as much and don’t have to play from behind. No. I don't underestimate it. I DO gauge how well the QB plays outside of the boxscore. I was at the first Cowgirls game and he was not playing well. As for bolded, yes, I get this. But the defense doesn't help themselves either by giving up those long TDs. The defense was porous from the beginning of the game. And then got worse. Its not like they were gangbusters until Colt threw his 3rd INT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: Gruden is not McVay He's not Andy Reid either, but hey what can we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, Thaiphoon said: No. I don't underestimate it. I DO gauge how well the QB plays outside of the boxscore. I was at the first Cowgirls game and he was not playing well. As for bolded, yes, I get this. But the defense doesn't help themselves either by giving up those long TDs. The defense was porous from the beginning of the game. And then got worse. Its not like they were gangbusters until Colt threw his 3rd INT The defense was holding their own until the two mental mistakes in the 2nd half. They were gassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I just want hope for the future. I don’t want another teams trash. Having Fuller, our third round pick, tons of Cap space and a year under Mason Rudolph’s belt would be so much more encouraging than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: He's not Andy Reid either, but hey what can we do? Not ruin a rookie QB when we’re paying Smith $31 million guaranteed anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, HTTRG3Dynasty said: The defense was holding their own until the two mental mistakes in the 2nd half. They were gassed. Dude, come on. The defense was on the field a lot before because this game because the offense couldn’t move the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, lavar703 said: I just want hope for the future. I don’t want another teams trash. Having Fuller, our third round pick, tons of Cap space and a year under Mason Rudolph’s belt would be so much more encouraging than this. Ya and ultimately this is why we need a new GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Dude, come on. The defense was on the field a lot before because this game because the offense couldn’t move the ball. Not true. Our average time of possession for the season: 31 minutes. Today? 26 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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