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20 minutes ago, buno67 said:

If you are going to use the pass friendly league argument against Baker, then you are also dinging Barkley as well. Because the only reason he has 91 catches is because its a pass friendly league. 

He also finished 2nd in the league in rushing with 1300 yards rushing on a 5.0 average.

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16 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

This thread is stupid tbh.

Any and every Giants fan would happily trade Barkley for Baker right now, just like every Baltimore fan would gladly trade Lamar for Baker.

Anyone who says they wouldn’t is clearly being obtuse and would rather argue for “their guy”.

Baker is winning games and putting up top shelf numbers (with Kitchens) as a rookie and doing so a.) from the pocket in a sustainable manner and b.) at the most important position on the field by a country mile.

Who wins the award? Idgaf.  Who’s the best rookie?  Baker, and any other argument is nothing more than mental masturbation.

Baker plays the more important position. Barkley had the better rookie season. This isn't a hard concept to grasp.

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4 minutes ago, Gmen said:

I prefer quarterbacks that carry and conduct themselves like Eli, Wilson, and Luck. I would rather keep Barkley thank you very much. 

The beauty of this is that it’s completely hypothetical and you don’t have to actually back that up. Allows you to double down on the bad take.  

Im sure you’d have no interest in a rookie QB who’s had a top 5 (in the league) passing DVOA since he was unshackled from Hue’s incompetence.

Especially not when you’d have to give up a running back.  In 2018.  

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It’s not like you can get a rookie back who could get 5.2 ypc in the second round or anything..

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14 minutes ago, minutemancl said:

He also finished 2nd in the league in rushing with 1300 yards rushing on a 5.0 average.

Oh awesome Browns had a rookie RB finished 996yadds on 5.2yard avg who only started 9 games. Chubb starts from day one, projects better than Barkley rushing wise, just saying...

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37 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

This thread is stupid tbh.

Any and every Giants fan would happily trade Barkley for Baker right now, just like every Baltimore fan would gladly trade Lamar for Baker.

Anyone who says they wouldn’t is clearly being obtuse and would rather argue for “their guy”.

Baker is winning games and putting up top shelf numbers (with Kitchens) as a rookie and doing so a.) from the pocket in a sustainable manner and b.) at the most important position on the field by a country mile.

Who wins the award? Idgaf.  Who’s the best rookie?  Baker, and any other argument is nothing more than mental masturbation.

He’s not putting up top shelf numbers. He’s 19th in Passer Rating and 17th in yards, in a league filled with backups, journeymen, guys playing through injuries, and other rookies. Ergo, his numbers are below average.

He’s also not winning games. He has a losing record on a team with good defense, offensive line, and running game. He’s still a loser.

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5 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

He’s not putting up top shelf numbers. He’s 19th in Passer Rating and 17th in yards, in a league filled with backups, journeymen, guys playing through injuries, and other rookies. Ergo, his numbers are below average.

He’s also not winning games. He has a losing record on a team with good defense, offensive line, and running game. He’s still a loser.

Amen to that. Didn’t he just get fined for grabbing his crotch again?  What a clown 

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3 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

He’s not putting up top shelf numbers. He’s 19th in Passer Rating and 17th in yards, in a league filled with backups, journeymen, guys playing through injuries, and other rookies. Ergo, his numbers are below average.

This is where reading comprehension pays off, see below...

3 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

He’s also not winning games.

Other than the 7 he’s won, you’re right.

3 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

He has a losing record on a team with good defense, offensive line, and running game. He’s still a loser.

The same defense, OL and running game that won 3/40 games before he became the starter?

 *actually one of those was Baker’s come from behind Thursday night win, so 2 games

40 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Baker is winning games and putting up top shelf numbers (with Kitchens)

I’ll highlight what I said to qualify things to make it easy.

And a link to make it easier.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2018/week-15-dvoa-ratings 

It’s 2 weeks old, but I’d imagine it’s close enough now to make my point.

* for those too lazy to click the link, it says since Hue was fired Baker’s passing DVOA is second on the league behind Mahomes*

 

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4 minutes ago, patriotsheatyan said:

He’s not putting up top shelf numbers. He’s 19th in Passer Rating and 17th in yards, in a league filled with backups, journeymen, guys playing through injuries, and other rookies. Ergo, his numbers are below average.

Yeah that 17th is only with playing. 13.5 games. If he started from day one, projects 4200+ yards 33TDs. Puts him borderline top10 in yards and top5/6 in TDs. 

Why does everyone think Baker started the season

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