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Who do you want a #58?  

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  1. 1. Who do you want at #58?

    • Deebo Samuel, WR
      2
    • Jace Sternberger, TE
      1
    • Greg Little, OT
      0
    • Damien Harris, RB
      0
    • LJ Collier, DE 
      0
    • Jaylon Ferguson, DE
      0
    • Taylor Rapp, S
      6
    • Juan Thornhill, S
      10
    • Johnathan Abram, S
      5
    • Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S
      2
    • Gerald Willis, DT
      0
    • Dawson Knox, TE
      0
    • Isaiah Johnson, CB
      0
    • Zach Allen, DE
      2
    • Joejuan Williams, CB
      0

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WizardHawk

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I wouldn’t swear to it, but iirc @BobbyBelt did this last year and was right on LVE.... his latest prediction.

Updated guesses on pick odds --------------- Pick 58:

DL Jaylon Ferguson - 20%

SAF Juan Thornhill - 15%

DT Trysten Hill - 15%

CB Joejuan Williams - 10%

CB Isaiah Johnson - 10% Other - 30%

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Trade up:

DL Collier - 35%

SAF Abram - 30%

SAF Rapp - 20%

Other - 15%

 

I don’t get the love for Ferguson. The film and production is excellent, but his test numbers go against the grain of the typically numbers Dallas prefers

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Calvert28

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1 hour ago, WizardHawk said:

I wouldn’t swear to it, but iirc @BobbyBelt did this last year and was right on LVE.... his latest prediction.

Updated guesses on pick odds --------------- Pick 58:

DL Jaylon Ferguson - 20%

SAF Juan Thornhill - 15%

DT Trysten Hill - 15%

CB Joejuan Williams - 10%

CB Isaiah Johnson - 10% Other - 30%

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Trade up:

DL Collier - 35%

SAF Abram - 30%

SAF Rapp - 20%

Other - 15%

 

I don’t get the love for Ferguson. The film and production is excellent, but his test numbers go against the grain of the typically numbers Dallas prefers

I hope he's wrong then.

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Nextyearfordaboyz

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Everybody had LVE as a top target.

No hate on Bobby Belt, but if you believe this, you have to believe that Bobby Belt has a source high up that speaks only to him. 

This would be extremely surprising. He’s a low SPARQ athlete from a small school. This would buck the MO of the front office since McClay took over. I know he’s on the 30 visit list, but he’s visiting a whopping 22 teams because he was disinvited from the combine. And it’s a position that isn’t a huge need. None of it makes much sense at pick #58. Later, maybe.

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59 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

Everybody had LVE as a top target.

No hate on Bobby Belt, but if you believe this, you have to believe that Bobby Belt has a source high up that speaks only to him. 

This would be extremely surprising. He’s a low SPARQ athlete from a small school. This would buck the MO of the front office since McClay took over. I know he’s on the 30 visit list, but he’s visiting a whopping 22 teams because he was disinvited from the combine. And it’s a position that isn’t a huge need. None of it makes much sense at pick #58. Later, maybe.

Actually Ferguson fits the mold of DE's that we tend to go for. we like the guys who look explosive on film but have Sparq questions. Like look at DLaw.

 

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DaBoys

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I like Fergy, but barf at spending our first pick on a 4th string DE.

 

I understand RG is wholly unreliable and Quinn is a rental, but still. Best case scenario he is a 3rd or 4th string DE. We have been getting starters in round 2 the last couple years.

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WizardHawk

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Cowboys 10 Draft Commandments

Some interesting facts and tidbits within....

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Under Jason Garrett, the Dallas defense is now on it’s third new iteration with Kris Richard in charge. 

Was this ever officially announced? I know it's been speculated, but I don't recall RM handing over anything. If KR is actually in control of the defense then, history says this is going to be a defensive heavy draft. 

 

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They didn’t outright say it, but in talking about tight end it felt as if they were saying bringing back Witten solved the huge need they spoke about in earnest early in the offseason.

No words for how much I hate this. Dallas is going to waste another loaded TE class and give Witten 90% of the snaps again. 

 

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It was very interesting to see the team do next-to-nothing in bringing in defensive backs which fit Richard’s prototypes, either through 2018 free agency or that year’s draft.  Here’s research on the difference in what he targets and what the Cowboys have targeted in their drafts..  We expect that to change this year. The backup safeties are already in house between George Iloka (6-foot-4), Darian Thompson and Kyle Queiro (both 6-foot-2). Now the starters and corners will be the targets.

I'm going to predict Jourdan Lewis gets traded at some point during the draft.  Isaiah Johnson or Joejuan Williams suddenly look even more likely than they already were.

 

2019 Dallas Pre-Draft Visitors (29)

Player School Position Source Projected Round
Chris Westry Kentucky CB Bobby Belt 7th-UDFA
Derrek Thomas Baylor CB Craig Smoak 7th-UDFA
Christian Miller Alabama DE/LB Bobby Belt 3rd/4th
Jaylon Ferguson Louisiana Tech 5T/3T Bobby Belt 2nd/3rd
John Cominsky Charleston 5T/3T Bobby Belt 5th/6th
Gerald Willis Miami 3T Jared Tokarz 2nd/3rd
Trysten Hill Central Florida 1T Tony Pauline 5th/6th
Kingsley Keke Texas A&M 3T Mark Lane 6th/7th
Darius Harris Middle Tennessee LB Bobby Belt 7th
Cole Holcomb North Carolina LB Bobby Belt UDFA
Dre Greenlaw Arkansas LB Draft Diamonds UDFA
Greg Little Ole Miss OT Todd Archer 2nd
Damien Harris Alabama RB Ian Rapoport 2nd
Mike Weber Ohio State RB Dan Hope 4th
Tony Pollard Memphis RB Calvin Watkins 7th
Chauncey Gardner Florida S Dallas Morning News 2nd
Johnathan Abram Mississippi State S Tom Pelissero 2nd
Juan Thornhill Virginia S Draft Diamonds 2nd
Taylor Rapp Washington S Bobby Belt 2nd
Will Harris Boston College S Bobby Belt 6th
Khari Willis Michigan State S Bobby Belt UDFA
Jace Sternberger Texas A&M TE Mark Lane 2nd/3rd
Dawson Knox Ole Miss TE @JustinM_NFL 3rd
Drew Sample Washington TE Bobby Belt 5th
Deebo Samuel South Carolina WR NFL.com 2nd
Emmanuel Hall Missouri WR Bobby Belt 3rd
Mecole Hardman Georgia WR Bobby Belt 3rd
Jon’Vea Johnson Toledo WR Jeff Cavanaugh UDFA
Jalen Hurd Baylor WR   4th

2019 Dallas Day Visitors (11)

Player School Position Source Projected Round
L.J. Collier TCU 5T/3T Todd Archer 3rd
Ben Banogu TCU DE Todd Archer 4th
David Blough Purdue QB Todd Archer UDFA
Ty Summers TCU LB Todd Archer UDFA
Devine Ozigbo Nebraska RB Todd Archer 5th
Jalen Guyton North Texas WR via Walter Football  
Lil’Jordan Humphrey Texas WR via Walter Football  
Marco Orozco Grambling K via Walter Football  
Derrek Thomas Baylor CB via Walter Football  
Xavier Turner Tarleton State RB via Walter Football  
Jordan Wyatt SMU CB via Walter Football  

2019 Interest List (16)

Player School Position Where Projected Round
Blace Brown Troy CB Pro Day  
Andre Dillard Washington State OT Senior Bowl  
Jon Duhart Old Dominion WR East-West  
Terrill Hanks New Mexico State OLB Private Workout  
Drew Lewis Colorado ILB Private Workout  
Josh Oliver San Jose State TE Private Workout  
Daylon Mack Texas A&M DT East-West  
Charles Omenihu Texas DE Combine  
Amani Orunwariye Penn State CB Combine  
Justin Phillips Oklahoma State LB Private Workout  
Miles Sanders Penn State RB Private Workout  
Jordan Ta’amu Ole Miss QB Pro Day  
Sione Takitaki BYU LB East-West  
Jerome Washington Rutgers TE Private Workout  
Joejuan Williams Vanderbilt CB Private Workout  
Amani Bledsoe Oklahoma DL Pro Day
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D82

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Witten isn’t getting 90% of the snaps. I think that quote is more a long the lines of signing Jason back gives them that solid veteran presence to help out the young guys. 

Richard was calling the defensive line-ups last year, IIRC. Think it’s one of those unsaid things that he’s basically the DC.

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DaBoys

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Darian Thompson was on the roster before KR. 

They probably aren't bringing in CBs because they are stacked at CB. J.Lewis probably isn't going anywhere because A.Brown is. I think he walks for a comp, and Lewis stays.

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Calvert28

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2 hours ago, DaBoys said:

Darian Thompson was on the roster before KR. 

They probably aren't bringing in CBs because they are stacked at CB. J.Lewis probably isn't going anywhere because A.Brown is. I think he walks for a comp, and Lewis stays.

Meh, Richard has shown alot of interest in some of the CB's it could be we are looking for a replacement.

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DaBoys

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Just now, Calvert28 said:

Meh, Richard has shown alot of interest in some of the CB's it could be we are looking for a replacement.

Brown has one year left just like Dak, Zeke, and Jaylon. But guess who doesn’t come up during extension talk?

Brown is gone after this year and Lewis may or may not replace him but I bet he stays to keep it competitive

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Just now, DaBoys said:

Brown has one year left just like Dak, Zeke, and Jaylon. But guess who doesn’t come up during extension talk?

Brown is gone after this year and Lewis may or may not replace him but I bet he stays to keep it competitive

Don't forget Jones.

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1 minute ago, Calvert28 said:

Don't forget Jones.

You are right. Nothing much is being said there.

 

But Byron is exactly what KR wants in a CB. Why replace him? Both JJ and SJ praise his smarts, length, and athleticism. 

 

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