Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Why do people obsess over Aiyuk? He's a disappointment waiting to happen. Here's what Zierlein wrote about him: Ascending receiving prospect who has shown continued improvement since coming from the JUCO ranks. Aiyuk has size, speed and is a natural pass-catcher who plays with good energy but he must improve physicality to handle contested catches. He can be slick and instinctive to separate out of stems and turns, but getting in and out of standard route breaks tends to limit his effectiveness. He needs more polish, but his ability to create yards after catch could get him some early reps while he's still developing. He has the potential to develop into a WR3. The Draft Network is a bit nicer:https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/brandon-aiyuk/ZsLQCCVH6K ...and we think he can be a WR2, if not eventually a WR1... I bet he drops to Day 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, beekay414 said: How do we feel about Drafttek's mock? 1.30 - Justin Madubuike | IDL | Texas A&M 2.62 - Brandon Aiyuk | WR | Arizona State 3.94 - Jeremy Chinn | SAF | Southern Illinois 4.136 - Willie Gay Jr | LB | Mississippi State (Matt Peart went one pick later) 5.175 - Alex Taylor | OT | South Carolina State 6.192 - Evan Weaver | ILB | California 6.208 - Keith Ismael | IOL | San Diego State 6.209 - James Robinson | RB | Illinois State 7.236 - Lynn Bowden Jr | WR | Kentucky 7.242 - Danny Pinter | IOL | Ball State No need for Chinn and Gay, same player. Sub one for another OL and I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: What's so special about Bowden? Especially in a crazy deep WR draft... He's a poor man's Randall Cobb. If he isn't pressed into service as a QB, I bet we're talking about him as a Day 2 pick. 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: 6'3" 293 with a 4.81 40 and 31 combine reps. I think he's plenty big enough. Blacklock is another option there as he went later. Except Blacklock is horrible against the run. He's a 4-3 rushing DT in the mold of early Suh and McCoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, Packerraymond said: No need for Chinn and Gay, same player. Sub one for another OL and I'd be happy. That's kinda why I pointed out Peart going 1 pick after Gay. I doubt Peart's there anyways but that's the way I was going (OL) with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: 6'3" 293 with a 4.81 40 and 31 combine reps. I think he's plenty big enough. Blacklock is another option there as he went later. i just like guys on the DL with more length. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe said: Except Blacklock is horrible against the run. He's a 4-3 rushing DT in the mold of early Suh and McCoy. What are you expecting at 30? You're not getting a complete player there, especially on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, CWood21 said: There should be enough WRs available throughout the draft, I don't see how WR is the value at 30. I'd really prefer an OT there instead. CWood, if top-3 priorities are OT, WR, and DL, which of those position groups would you be most willing to defer till round 3 or later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfman Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, craig said: CWood, if top-3 priorities are OT, WR, and DL, which of those position groups would you be most willing to defer till round 3 or later? Not C-wood but OT has to happen in 1 or 2 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, gopackgo247 said: i just like guys on the DL with more length. Feel ya. I just like guys that are good. I think Madubuike is plenty good enough to be an impact guy. He won't ever be explosive but he's a nice #2 next to KC97. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, craig said: CWood, if top-3 priorities are OT, WR, and DL, which of those position groups would you be most willing to defer till round 3 or later? WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Feel ya. I just like guys that are good. I think Madubuike is plenty good enough to be an impact guy. He won't ever be explosive but he's a nice #2 next to KC97. i agree. they cant all be Rashan Garys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, beekay414 said: What are you expecting at 30? You're not getting a complete player there, especially on the DL. If I'm going IDL, I want someone who can stop the run first, and then offer a pass rush. We have 4 other guys very capable of rushing the passer and I suspect we'll find more along the way. Every game we lost last season was because our run defense is a joke. If I'm going WR at 30, it's gotta be someone like Jalen Reagor who can make an immediate impact, but isn't expected to shoulder the bulk of the passing load, at least in the first year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Feel ya. I just like guys that are good. I think Madubuike is plenty good enough to be an impact guy. He won't ever be explosive but he's a nice #2 next to KC97. and that's what we're looking for at this time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, gopackgo247 said: i agree. they cant all be Rashan Garys Tongue in cheek? I know a lot of people didn't like that pick but I think he's going to come on strong this year. Honestly, I'd love to move him to DL full time. I think he's better suited there than in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo247 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, beekay414 said: Tongue in cheek? I know a lot of people didn't like that pick but I think he's going to come on strong this year. Honestly, I'd love to move him to DL full time. I think he's better suited there than in space. no im just saying they cant all have that rare blend of size and athleticism that gary has and what i covet in a DL. those guys dont last to 30 though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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