deathstar Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 40 minutes ago, SAM said: All I'm saying is when GB picked Jenkins, a Center, at #44, A.J. Brown, Parris Campbell, and DK Metcalf were on the Board. All three were highly productive in Collige, and Freekish big Athletes for WR.. What’s your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, deathstar said: What’s your point? IMHO GB should have taken a skill player at #44 instead of an interior linemen. Edited May 23, 2019 by SAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantyWrestler Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 4 hours ago, SAM said: IMHO GB should have taken a skill player at #44 instead of an interior linemen. They drafted 3 skill players last year, 2 of which looked pretty good. Their interior OL was not too good at pass blocking... why would they draft another WR skill player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) I would not be surprised if, internally, Green Bay had a better grade on J'Mon than A.J. Brown, a better grade on MVS or ESB than Metcalf, and didn't see Paris Campbell as a scheme fit (he's a guy you have to manufacture touches for, IMO.) Edited May 23, 2019 by PossibleCabbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I would not be surprised if, internally, Green Bay had a better grade on J'Mon than A.J. Brown, a better grade on MVS or ESB than Metcalf, and didn't see Paris Campbell as a scheme fit (he's a guy you have to manufacture touches for, IMO.) I suspect that GB had a better grade on any WR they had graded than Metcalf. Can't see this org making a commitment to a guy with a neck injury like his. This org will politely take care of, and then move on from, players with neck injuries they're already committed to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 hours ago, incognito_man said: I suspect that GB had a better grade on any WR they had graded than Metcalf. I would not doubt that there are teams which had Metcalf off their boards entirely purely for Medical, and Green Bay is likely one of the most conservative teams when it comes to neck/spine injuries (in part this is bad luck, but I mean... Sam Shields is still playing.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I would not doubt that there are teams which had Metcalf off their boards entirely purely for Medical, and Green Bay is likely one of the most conservative teams when it comes to neck/spine injuries (in part this is bad luck, but I mean... Sam Shields is still playing.) This all came out when Sean Richardson got hurt, there's a cutoff for where on the neck the injury occurred with the Packers medical staff. If it's above that point it's a green light (provided the surgery went well) below it's a red. We'll never know where Metcalf's was but it would depend on that as to whether he was on our board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: This all came out when Sean Richardson got hurt, there's a cutoff for where on the neck the injury occurred with the Packers medical staff. If it's above that point it's a green light (provided the surgery went well) below it's a red. We'll never know where Metcalf's was but it would depend on that as to whether he was on our board. I thought it was less about the location on the back and more about the narrowing of the spinal column at the injury point. Distinctly possible I'm misremembering though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 10:04 AM, ThatJerkDave said: We got a Kelly Bryant from Clemson, so QB isn't dire. https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/sec/university-of-missouri/article229387349.html Okwuegbunam has battled a shoulder injury since MU’s upset win over No. 13 Florida on Nov. 3, which also played a factor in his reasoning. He missed the last four games of the season and was limited throughout spring practices while he rehabbed. Neither he nor Missouri have publicly commented on the specifics of his injury. Mizzou coach Barry Odom said Okwuegbunam’s draft decision would have been harder had he been healthy last season. His size, pass-catching ability and speed — he claims to run a 4.50-second 40-yard dash, elite for the position — would have had scouts salivating. But the injury and depth of the position in this year’s draft posed major hurdles. Now, if all goes well, Okwuegbunam could be the top tight end in next year’s draft. At MU’s recent pro day, football super-agents Jimmy Sexton and Tom Condon of CAA both went out of their way to introduce themselves to Okwuegbunam, in hopes of representing him next year. You are in for a rude awakening if you think Kelly Bryant is going to be much of a passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bullet Club said: You are in for a rude awakening if you think Kelly Bryant is going to be much of a passer. He should be able to get the ball to Albert O. It can't be that difficult. We thrived with Brad Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 8:18 PM, MantyWrestler said: They drafted 3 skill players last year, 2 of which looked pretty good. Their interior OL was not too good at pass blocking... why would they draft another WR skill player? All i'm saying is WR or CB have more value than G or C. Still not sure who will be the Slot, and King's health is in question. Greedy Williams was on the board as well as some big fast WR like AJ Brown, Parris Campbell, and DK Metcalf. If they picked a LT that would be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, SAM said: All i'm saying is WR or CB have more value than G or C. Still not sure who will be the Slot, and King's health is in question. Greedy Williams was on the board as well as some big fast WR like AJ Brown, Parris Campbell, and DK Metcalf. If they picked a LT that would be different. WR isn't that much more valuable than Guard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: WR isn't that much more valuable than Guard. Not if you look at the salaries paid to WR as apposed to guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, SAM said: Not if you look at the salaries paid to WR as apposed to guards. top 10 average WR: $16 million top 10 average G: $11.7 million Appears NFL teams value WRs approximately 36% more than guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, SAM said: Not if you look at the salaries paid to WR as apposed to guards. I haven't found a ton of correlation between a player's salary and their impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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