agarcia34 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 This place will be hilarious if they took CJ over Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I accepted that he would could be the pick a week ago so it wouldn’t crush me on draft day. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: This place will be hilarious if they took CJ over Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I accepted that he would could be the pick a week ago so it wouldn’t crush me on draft day. I try to accept every player at every position before draft day. Just run every scenario through my head and be completely open-minded. You can only be shocked if you were close-minded about certain players at certain draft positions. If CJ is the pick at 12 I wouldn’t be shocked, although I definitely don’t think it happens. Plus I’m at the point where I trust Mayock with anything and our analysis is not as good as Mayock. If they select CJ at 12, obviously Mayock/Gruden don’t have the same tackling concerns, and Mayock knows better than us. Not saying I’m ok with CJ at 12. I’m not. I would openly speak out against it. However 1) I trust Mayock 2) I don’t think I’d be surprised by anything at this point. Edited April 10, 2020 by BayRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 * Trade #19 & #81 to Indianapolis for #34, #44 & 193* 12 - CJ Henderson | CB | Florida 34 - Jaleon Reagor | WR | TCU 44 - Ross Blacklock | DT | TCU 80 - Terrell Burgess | S | Utah 91 - Bryan Edwards | WR | South Carolina 121 - AJ Dillon | RB | Boston | College 159 - Davion Taylor | LB | Colorado 193 - Trey Adams | OT | Washington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, BayRaider said: Not saying I’m ok with CJ at 12. I’m not. I would openly speak out against it. However 1) I trust Mayock 2) I don’t think I’d be surprised by anything at this point. Mayock himself said it's buyer beware with 1st round WR's. CB is a premium position, especially with Mahomeboy in the division. Henderson needs to clean up his tackling but in coverage he has the potential to be a lock down #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: This place will be hilarious if they took CJ over Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I accepted that he would could be the pick a week ago so it wouldn’t crush me on draft day. Honestly if we're going to target CJ we need to secure Lamb at #12 and then package #19 and #81 to move up to #16 to for Henderson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: This place will be hilarious if they took CJ over Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I accepted that he would could be the pick a week ago so it wouldn’t crush me on draft day. Actually I'm leaning toward that, i just did my first round mock got us getting C.J at #12 and Ruggs at #19, I think Wr's will get pushed down because it's so deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) If Mayock and Gruden are ok with his tackling issues and pick CJ, I’ll be the first person to welcome him aboard in the CJ thread. In Mayock, I trust completely right now (until results are consistently negative on the field over multiple draft classes, hopefully that never happens). Although I think Mayock/Gruden will see the same tackling concerns everyone else sees and pass him up at 12. That’s one of Mayock and Grudens pet peeves. One of mine too, which is why I’m lower on Henderson than most. Give me defensive bully, even corners. Edited April 10, 2020 by BayRaider 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Think CB at #19 is better than WR at #19. Should be solid CBs left over at #19. WR probably not one of the top 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Think this forum would explode if we took a defensive player at 12 and Lamb fell to 19 (I know most of you really like him). Could certainly happen. Jeudy is a perfect fit for SF and Ruggs is a perfect fit for Denver. No team from 16-18 has a need for a WR. Although I’m not sure Eagles stand idly by and let Lamb fall in our laps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, BayRaider said: If Mayock and Gruden are ok with his tackling issues and pick CJ, I’ll be the first person to welcome him aboard in the CJ thread. In Mayock, I trust completely right now (until results are consistently negative on the field over multiple draft classes, hopefully that never happens). Although I think Mayock/Gruden will see the same tackling concerns everyone else sees and pass him up at 12. That’s one of Mayock and Grudens pet peeves. One of mine too, which is why I’m lower on Henderson than most. Give me defensive bully, even corners. i got Lamb falling to SF at 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Positive out of that is CJ athletic ability is pretty crazy him and Mullen and I.Johnson if he can put thing together would give the Raiders an insanely athletic CB group that you can feel good about facing KC and Denver. Cause I’ll tell you this if Ruggs don’t go to the Raiders or the Niners he’s going to the Broncos. Speed is very much a must in the secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 First round mock no trades... 1. Cincinnati - Joe Burrow | QB | LSU 2. Washington - Chase Young | Edge | Ohio State 3. Detroit - Jeff Okudah | CB | Ohio State 4. New York - Isaiah Simmons | LB | Clemson 5. Miami - Tua Tagovalioa | QB | Alabama 6. Los Angeles - Justin Herbert | QB | Oregon 7. Carolina - Derrick Brown | DT | Auburn 8. Arizona - Tristian Wirfs | OT | Iowa 9. Jacksonville - Javon Kinlaw | DT | South Carolina 10. Cleveland - Mehki Becton | OT | Louisville 11. New York - K'Lavon Chaisson | Edge | LSU 12. Las Vegas - C.J. Henderson | CB | Florida 13. San Francisco - CeeDee Lamb | WR | Oklahoma 14. Tampa Bay - Jedrick Willis | OT | Alabama 15. Denver - Josh Jones | OT | Houstan 16. Atlanta - Yetur Gross-Matos | Edge | Penn St. 17. Dallas - Kristian Fulton | CB | LSU 18. Miami - Xavier McKinney | S | Alabama 19. Las Vegas - Henry Ruggs | WR | Alabama 20. Jacksonville - Jeff Gladney | CB | TCU 21. Philadelphia - Jerry Jeudy | WR | Alabama 22. Minnesota - Trevon Diggs | CB | Alabama 23. New England - Jordan Love | QB | Utah St. 24. New Orleans - Patrick Queen | LB | LSU 25. Minnesota - Justin Jefferson | WR | LSU 26. Miami - Cesar Ruiz | OT | Michigan 27. Seattle - Ross Blacklock | DL | TCU 28. Baltimore - Kenneth Murray | LB | Oklahoma 29. Tennessee - A.J. Epenesa | Edge | Iowa 30. Green Bay - Brandon Aiyuk | WR | Arizona St. 31. San Francisco - Jaylon Johnson | CB | Utah 32. Kansas City - Jonathan Taylor | RB | Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On pff’s cameron dantzler draft profile they made an interesting point.... well they didn’t connect the dots..... dantzler is 6’2 1/4” and weighed 188 at the combine.... and it’s likely he chugged water before getting on the scale..... sure he pissed most of the water out before the next day but that maybe caused him to run slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I could get behind CJ at 12 if Lamb is already gone. Only way i'd pass on Lamb is if one of Okudah, Simmons and Brown is available. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, agarcia34 said: This place will be hilarious if they took CJ over Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb. I accepted that he would could be the pick a week ago so it wouldn’t crush me on draft day. Id be miffed if we passed on Lamb but I'd understand the logic if we took CJ at 12. CB is a premium position and Henderson has tremendous cover ability. This WR class is deep and no matter who we take, we are still going to be a running team with Waller as our 1A in the passing game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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