beekay414 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: So on that note, LaMelo visiting Boston/Ainge today .. NOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo !!1 He visited Puma, not the Celtics. In person meetings aren't allowed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 9 hours ago, beekay414 said: He visited Puma, not the Celtics. In person meetings aren't allowed right now. damn , Puma almost gave me a heart attack!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 9:57 AM, resilient part 2 said: damn , Puma almost gave me a heart attack!! Marcus Smart + #14 to Golden State for #2 (LaMelo), let's go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Marcus Smart + #14 to Golden State for #2 (LaMelo), let's go. No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, Oregon Ducks said: No It's seeming less likely that they'll be able to move the pick for a proven All-Star player. If they can't move it I think it's almost guaranteed that they're going to take Avdija, there's more and more chatter that's their favorite prospect in the class. He fits really well with your roster in a super 6th man type of role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 it is crazy to me that nesmith scored 23 points on 69% TS...that is unbelievably ridiculous dougie mcbuckets also basically did it tho nesmith prob averaged more stocks (steal + blocks) per gm than Doug got over an entire szn lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: it is crazy to me that nesmith scored 23 points on 69% TS...that is unbelievably ridiculous dougie mcbuckets also basically did it tho nesmith prob averaged more stocks (steal + blocks) per gm than Doug got over an entire szn lol Nesmith only played in 14 games last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Apparently the Hawks management really likes LaMelo Ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 On 9/15/2020 at 3:43 PM, OhioG said: How would you guys evaluate Vassel vs Okoro when it comes to defense? Probably the two best perimeter defenders in the class. As Sanchez said Okoro is a better athlete so he probably has more versatility long-term but Vassell is slightly better as a perimeter defender. Both guys should be plus defenders at the next level though. I think they're pretty close as prospects overall as well. And a team deciding between the two would make their decision based on which they like more, Vassell's floor or Okoro's ceiling. Vassell is a good but not great athlete by NBA standards and I don't think he has enough explosiveness or playmaking ability to ever be a high end scorer or secondary creator. He's an excellent shooter at all levels though and he'll be a guy that can play anywhere because of his ability to knock down shots, finish in transition, and provide plus defense. Okoro on the other hand is a very good but not great athlete but NBA standards that has a nice combination of explosiveness, strength, and length. He also flashed a nice handle with the ability to create his own offense off the ability as well as above average passing ability for a wing. The biggest issue with Okoro is clearly his inability to consistently knock down three's which will dictate how his career progresses in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 New Big Board 1. Onyeka Okongwu | C | USC 2. Anthony Edwards | CG | Georgia 3. Killian Hayes | PG | France 4. Deni Avdija | F | Israel 5. Aleksej Pokusevski | FC | Greece 6. James Wiseman | C | Memphis 7. Isaac Okoro | GF | Auburn 8. Devin Vassell | GF | Florida State 9. Tyrese Haliburton | PG | Iowa State 10. Patrick Williams | F | Florida State 11. Kira Lewis | CG | Alabama 12. Cole Anthony | CG | North Carolina 13. Aaron Nesmith | GF | Vanderbilt 14. Obi Toppin | F | Dayton 15. Tyrell Terry | PG | Stanford 16. Precious Achiuwa | F | Memphis 17. Tyrese Maxey | CG | Kentucky 18. Jaden McDaniels | F | Washington 19. Theo Maledon | CG | France 20. RJ Hampton | CG | USA 21. LaMelo Ball | CG | USA 22. Leandro Bolmaro | GF | Spain 23. Josh Green | GF | Arizona 24. Desmond Bane | SG | TCU 25. Isaiah Stewart | C | Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioG Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 23 hours ago, NYRaider said: Probably the two best perimeter defenders in the class. As Sanchez said Okoro is a better athlete so he probably has more versatility long-term but Vassell is slightly better as a perimeter defender. Both guys should be plus defenders at the next level though. I think they're pretty close as prospects overall as well. And a team deciding between the two would make their decision based on which they like more, Vassell's floor or Okoro's ceiling. Vassell is a good but not great athlete by NBA standards and I don't think he has enough explosiveness or playmaking ability to ever be a high end scorer or secondary creator. He's an excellent shooter at all levels though and he'll be a guy that can play anywhere because of his ability to knock down shots, finish in transition, and provide plus defense. Okoro on the other hand is a very good but not great athlete but NBA standards that has a nice combination of explosiveness, strength, and length. He also flashed a nice handle with the ability to create his own offense off the ability as well as above average passing ability for a wing. The biggest issue with Okoro is clearly his inability to consistently knock down three's which will dictate how his career progresses in the league. Appreciate the insight. Cavs clearly need a wing and someone who can play defense. I read someone say Okoro didnt have a great first step and would struggle on defense and got confused because I thought he was known for being a great defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, OhioG said: Appreciate the insight. Cavs clearly need a wing and someone who can play defense. I read someone say Okoro didnt have a great first step and would struggle on defense and got confused because I thought he was known for being a great defender. Okoro seems like a Justice Winslow clone with a better upside.. I love Wing defenders who can switch and defend, but if you aren't a really good shooter, than I pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: New Big Board 1. Onyeka Okongwu | C | USC 2. Anthony Edwards | CG | Georgia 3. Killian Hayes | PG | France 4. Deni Avdija | F | Israel 5. Aleksej Pokusevski | FC | Greece 6. James Wiseman | C | Memphis 7. Isaac Okoro | GF | Auburn 8. Devin Vassell | GF | Florida State 9. Tyrese Haliburton | PG | Iowa State 10. Patrick Williams | F | Florida State 11. Kira Lewis | CG | Alabama 12. Cole Anthony | CG | North Carolina 13. Aaron Nesmith | GF | Vanderbilt 14. Obi Toppin | F | Dayton 15. Tyrell Terry | PG | Stanford 16. Precious Achiuwa | F | Memphis 17. Tyrese Maxey | CG | Kentucky 18. Jaden McDaniels | F | Washington 19. Theo Maledon | CG | France 20. RJ Hampton | CG | USA 21. LaMelo Ball | CG | USA 22. Leandro Bolmaro | GF | Spain 23. Josh Green | GF | Arizona 24. Desmond Bane | SG | TCU 25. Isaiah Stewart | C | Washington Even if Poku reaches his offensive potential in how many years 2-4 years?? How the hell is he going to switch on PNRs?? Edited September 19, 2020 by resilient part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, OhioG said: Appreciate the insight. Cavs clearly need a wing and someone who can play defense. I read someone say Okoro didnt have a great first step and would struggle on defense and got confused because I thought he was known for being a great defender. Avdija is a nice fit with you guys but I don't think he makes it to #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 9 hours ago, NYRaider said: New Big Board 1. Onyeka Okongwu | C | USC 2. Anthony Edwards | CG | Georgia 3. Killian Hayes | PG | France 4. Deni Avdija | F | Israel 5. Aleksej Pokusevski | FC | Greece 6. James Wiseman | C | Memphis 7. Isaac Okoro | GF | Auburn 8. Devin Vassell | GF | Florida State 9. Tyrese Haliburton | PG | Iowa State 10. Patrick Williams | F | Florida State 11. Kira Lewis | CG | Alabama 12. Cole Anthony | CG | North Carolina 13. Aaron Nesmith | GF | Vanderbilt 14. Obi Toppin | F | Dayton 15. Tyrell Terry | PG | Stanford 16. Precious Achiuwa | F | Memphis 17. Tyrese Maxey | CG | Kentucky 18. Jaden McDaniels | F | Washington 19. Theo Maledon | CG | France 20. RJ Hampton | CG | USA 21. LaMelo Ball | CG | USA 22. Leandro Bolmaro | GF | Spain 23. Josh Green | GF | Arizona 24. Desmond Bane | SG | TCU 25. Isaiah Stewart | C | Washington Just looking at Saddiq Bey’s numbers seem like he’s translate into an elite offensive role player. He’s a little old for a soph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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