PACKRULE Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, Joe said: I don't think they're ready. O'Neill makes me think they have a better chance of holding up as Remmers was a rich man's Allen Barbre on the right side. As for the offense. I highly doubt their DL will be as active as Chicago's was. Let's look at it logically here: rivalry game, week 1 of the season, prime time opener for the entire league; dudes balled out as hard as they could. I looked at some of ATL's drives from Sunday and it seemed as if they had success with short passes to the left towards the beginning of the game, then to the right towards the end. Jimmy Graham could have a big day if we go this route, especially if we're running 5-7 yard out routes. How will our ground game fair? Can we run on them? If we can get AJ going that changes everything on offense for us. The short passing game may be a way to open that up also and some deception get those LBs for Minny moving. I hope we are a bit better in the run game though Jones could be a huge difference for us on offense if we can get him going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFP7 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe said: I don't think they're ready. O'Neill makes me think they have a better chance of holding up as Remmers was a rich man's Allen Barbre on the right side. As for the offense. I highly doubt their DL will be as active as Chicago's was. Let's look at it logically here: rivalry game, week 1 of the season, prime time opener for the entire league; dudes balled out as hard as they could. I looked at some of ATL's drives from Sunday and it seemed as if they had success with short passes to the left towards the beginning of the game, then to the right towards the end. Jimmy Graham could have a big day if we go this route, especially if we're running 5-7 yard out routes. welp.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Joe said: I don't think they're ready. O'Neill makes me think they have a better chance of holding up as Remmers was a rich man's Allen Barbre on the right side. As for the offense. I highly doubt their DL will be as active as Chicago's was. Let's look at it logically here: rivalry game, week 1 of the season, prime time opener for the entire league; dudes balled out as hard as they could. I looked at some of ATL's drives from Sunday and it seemed as if they had success with short passes to the left towards the beginning of the game, then to the right towards the end. Jimmy Graham could have a big day if we go this route, especially if we're running 5-7 yard out routes. Minnesota isn't as deep across the board in terms of its pass rush, especially on the inside. Joseph and Stephen are a big drop off from Richardson last year as inside pass rushers, and I'd rank both of them behind all 3 of Chicago's guys, Hicks, Goldman and Robertson-Harris as inside pass rushers. Not sure what to expect out of Griffin who missed a lot of football last year dealing with mental issues. He was a borderline premier player before that, but Bakh has always owned Griffen in past match-ups. Obviously, the most concern lies with Hunter. He's a top-5 pass rushing DE in football, maybe top 3 right now. He dominated the ATL game and will be yet another huge test for Bulaga on the right side. Good thing Bulaga is good. The sleeper of this group is Weatherly who rushes a lot on 3rd downs and is a very effective pass rushing specialist. I'd probably label him as their second best pass rusher right now after Hunter. I'm expecting Minny to be pretty active with their LBs and force Rodgers to prove he can beat the blitz. Expect Zimmer to send Barr and Kendricks quite a bit until we start beating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PACKRULE said: How will our ground game fair? Can we run on them? If we can get AJ going that changes everything on offense for us. The short passing game may be a way to open that up also and some deception get those LBs for Minny moving. I hope we are a bit better in the run game though Jones could be a huge difference for us on offense if we can get him going. Like any match-up, running the football is about execution. Minnesota has generally been stout against the run over the years because Joseph plugs the middle, they have fast/active LBs and one of the best run-filling safeties in football in Smith. Won't be an easy task to establish a run game against them, but it all comes down to assignments and execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Atlanta was gashed to death on the outside zone stretch plays by the vikings. I assume the packers will do a better job to take those away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Xavier Rhodes will be called for two defense pass interferences at minimum against Davante Adams. He can't really handle those double moves. Edited September 10, 2019 by Howler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffdaswede Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I'm expecting Minny to be pretty active with their LBs and force Rodgers to prove he can beat the blitz. Expect Zimmer to send Barr and Kendricks quite a bit until we start beating it. Wasn't there a time, years back already, when blitzing Rodgers was a very bad thing to do? I know that recently defenses have shown blitz, forced Aaron into an audible, and then switched into a better defense for the expected play. Please let's have some routes that move automatically into vacated linebacker space when blitz is read at the snap. Is that not a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) I think Jimmy Graham could have a huge game in this spot, given Zimmer's defensive habits. Edited September 10, 2019 by Howler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PACKRULE said: How will our ground game fair? Can we run on them? If we can get AJ going that changes everything on offense for us. The short passing game may be a way to open that up also and some deception get those LBs for Minny moving. I hope we are a bit better in the run game though Jones could be a huge difference for us on offense if we can get him going. This is exactly what I was thinking... 27 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Minnesota isn't as deep across the board in terms of its pass rush, especially on the inside. Joseph and Stephen are a big drop off from Richardson last year as inside pass rushers, and I'd rank both of them behind all 3 of Chicago's guys, Hicks, Goldman and Robertson-Harris as inside pass rushers. Not sure what to expect out of Griffin who missed a lot of football last year dealing with mental issues. He was a borderline premier player before that, but Bakh has always owned Griffen in past match-ups. Obviously, the most concern lies with Hunter. He's a top-5 pass rushing DE in football, maybe top 3 right now. He dominated the ATL game and will be yet another huge test for Bulaga on the right side. Good thing Bulaga is good. The sleeper of this group is Weatherly who rushes a lot on 3rd downs and is a very effective pass rushing specialist. I'd probably label him as their second best pass rusher right now after Hunter. I'm expecting Minny to be pretty active with their LBs and force Rodgers to prove he can beat the blitz. Expect Zimmer to send Barr and Kendricks quite a bit until we start beating it. I'm actually not all too concerned about Hunter as much as I am the guys who open up for Hunter. That IDL is certainly not as explosive as Chicago's is, you're definitely right there. Stephen is a run plugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Packers and vikings currently tied at 16:1 on SB odds, both teams moved up after opening weekend results They'll shift again after Sundays' battle at Lambeau http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/futures/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I'd like to see Trevor Davis get more snaps to intimidate the viking safeties. Allison may be stable, but he's not your protypical 'quick twitch' slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Is Mike Hughes playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Uffdaswede said: Wasn't there a time, years back already, when blitzing Rodgers was a very bad thing to do? I know that recently defenses have shown blitz, forced Aaron into an audible, and then switched into a better defense for the expected play. Please let's have some routes that move automatically into vacated linebacker space when blitz is read at the snap. Is that not a thing? Yup, and we need to get back to that. He's still usually pretty good against the blitz, but not as lethal as he used to be. Hopefully we burn Minny on Sunday if they try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Howler said: Is Mike Hughes playing? Zimmer said he "has a chance." So no one really knows right now. They'll be without Alexander who dislocated his elbow against ATL, so if Hughes can't go, they might be down to CB No. 5 at the nickel spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Uffdaswede said: Wasn't there a time, years back already, when blitzing Rodgers was a very bad thing to do? Its been quite the evolution to watch over the years. When AR was a young QB, DCs blitzed the crap out of him, but he made them pay dearly. So they switched tactics and played more coverage, and had the rushers "contain" him and defend the scrambles. But then AR had forever in the pocket and again he made them pay. Then Zimmer started with the delayed blitzes, the LBs would wait a second or two and then come after him full speed after the OL had committed elsewhere. The chess game continues, but getting the ball out quickly negates the rush and forces DCs to try other options Edited September 10, 2019 by Shanedorf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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