Forge Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20621318/reform-nba-draft-lottery-voted-17-18-season Quote The National Basketball Association is aggressively pursuing draft lottery reform that could be voted into legislation before the start of the 2017-18 season, league sources told ESPN. Commissioner Adam Silver is a strong advocate to de-incentivize tanking by implementing lower odds on the NBA's worst teams to gain the top picks in the draft, league sources said. The proposed measures would also increase the chances of better teams making a jump up into the draft lottery. The NBA's 14 non-playoff teams compromise the league's annual draft lottery system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Doyle Rules Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Hate this idea, and just hurts teams that just actually suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, O'Doyle Rules said: Hate this idea, and just hurts teams that just actually suck. Maybe we/Boston got rid of the Brooklyn pick, just in time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Love it honestly. Teams blatantly tank, would love to find a way to make teams think twice about it. Hate hate HATE the proposed rule of not allowing teams to have back to back top 3 picks. That makes zero sense. What if a team, like the Nets, is just actually that bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CWood21 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Teams are going to tank regardless...what happens if you're a fringe playoff team, would you rather go the playoffs and be swept by the Warriors or go into the lottery with improved lottery odds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 I think an improved version would be that if a team finds itself in the bottom 3 teams more than once in a period of time then their odds are decreased by a certain percentage for each time they've been in the bottom 3 during that period. We could use a 3-4 year period, which seems to be the length of time teams have been using to tank to get talent, so during a 4 year period, each time a team appears in the bottom 3 teams beyond the first, their percentage is dropped by 5% that is spread out evenly to the #4-#15 teams. So if a team is in the bottom 3 for 4 straight years, then the 4th year the team would only have a 3.3% of the balls but the teams from #4-15 would all get just over a 1% boost to their odds. Helps remove the incentive to tank as hard as it has been and still rewards teams trying to build a better program at the expense of those that are perpetually tanking. edit- Also could you imagine the end of season games between two teams that are rebuilding and trying to stay out of the bottom 3 for a 2nd or 3rd time within the 4 year window. Philly vs Nets, both having been in the bottom 3 for 2-3 years, looking to not lose 10-15% chance for a top pick. Would definitely give them a reason to play competitive basketball at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGreen Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 There is really no good way to do this. Teams are gonna tank regardless. It happens in most sports, it's just the most obvious in the NBA. Cant wait until a team finds out it can't make the playoffs, tanks the final 5 games, and then gets the 1st overall pick. This will only hurt small market teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 4 hours ago, IrishGreen said: There is really no good way to do this. Teams are gonna tank regardless. It happens in most sports, it's just the most obvious in the NBA. Cant wait until a team finds out it can't make the playoffs, tanks the final 5 games, and then gets the 1st overall pick. This will only hurt small market teams. I can understand the desire to reduce the incentive of teams taking 4 straight years of tanking to rebuild without even attempting to improve, it creates a lot of really bad games that kills viewerships as well as hurts fan bases. Which is why I think my idea is better. Keeps the odds the same they are now, but if teams find themselves in the bottom 3 more than once in a 4 year span, then they get a cumulative punishment for each additional time during that period. It would be similar to the repeat luxury tax offender penalty only in the bottom. It means team could still tank, but they need to at least be continuing to improve otherwise the benefit of tanking is reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Here's how you improve it. You get rid of it and implement a normal frigging draft like every other league because the idea that the worst team might not be able to get the #1 pick and allow other teams to luck into it repeatedly to do so. The idea is dated and ridiculous from the start, of course teams are going to still tank in the NBA, there's no reason NOT TO TANK when one player can completely transform your entire franchise overnight. Talent is already too diluted across the league and too concentrated in quite literally 2-3 teams at any given point. The dog and pony show of it all wore thin ages ago, nobody likes the "drama" of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 There's a difference between tanking to just miss the playoffs as you'll end up getting swept at the 7th or 8th seed and hope to get lucky and tanking like Philly, Brooklyn, and Cleveland have done. Even as a Cavs fan, I accepted it as a way to build a contender eventually but it was tough to be motivated to watch the games until year 3 or 4 of the process as we knew they weren't even attempting to win. Philly took it to a whole new level though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 Who cares if you lose on purpose? The league shouldn't mandate how bad teams improve that's ridiculous. If a franchise and it's owner sign off on the idea then that's all that should matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raves Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I guess it's just different in Basketball. In football if a team is tanking they can still field a team and look like they might be attempting to compete, and at worst you just have 16 games of it. When you have 5x as many games to make the situation visible to the public, not to mention those teams still expecting fans to pay a normal price for tickets, it gets a little ridiculous. If teams were going to purposely tank, they should at least lower the cost of tickets to compensate for the crap they are putting on the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I feel like removing the 1 year out of HS rule would even the playing field more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 This is silly. I thought Silver was gonna be a good Commish. I was wrong. He's done some dumb things since taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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