Phire Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: I really don't think this is true at all. He certainly isn't special, but he is at least an above average NFL QB. He is actually really accurate from the pocket and can help his team win games. Think the issue is their offense is anemic at times when the running game is shut down and their defense is too up and down. If I was Tennessee, I would hold on to Mariota for at least another contract to see where he can take them. Mariota isn't playing well and somehow that team is still in the playoff hunt and has a winning record. That should give a general idea of what's going on there. I think he missed two games but twelve passing touchdowns on the year at this point is pretty inexcusable for any starting quarterback. And half of those twelve came in three games. There are only a handful of starting QBs who have thrown more picks than touchdowns. I think by definition if your QB is throwing more picks than touchdowns you're holding your team back. Those quarterbacks with more picks than touchdowns are: Mariota, Kizer, Siemian, Hundley, Beathard and a handful of other sorry quarterbacks not worth mentioning (like Mike Glennon). That's really bad company. If you told me a starting QB has thrown more picks than touchdowns, and he only has twelve touchdowns on the year, BUT the team has a winning record and is in the playoff hunt... yeah, Mariota's being carried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Just now, Phire said: Mariota isn't playing well and somehow that team is still in the playoff hunt and has a winning record. That should give a general idea of what's going on there. I think he missed two games but twelve passing touchdowns on the year at this point is pretty inexcusable for any starting quarterback. And half of those twelve came in three games. There are only a handful of starting QBs who have thrown more picks than touchdowns. I think by definition if your QB is throwing more picks than touchdowns you're holding your team back. Those quarterbacks with more picks than touchdowns are: Mariota, Kizer, Siemian, Hundley, Beathard and a handful of other sorry quarterbacks not worth mentioning (like Mike Glennon). That's really bad company. If you told me a starting QB has thrown more picks than touchdowns, and he only has twelve touchdowns on the year, BUT the team has a winning record and is in the playoff hunt... yeah, Mariota's being carried. They are hardly a good team. They are 8-7 and will likely finish 8-8 in an extremely weak AFC. They have no talent on offense and they have a defense that is mediocre at best. Saying he is getting carried isn't accurate because his team in general is not very good. Wentz threw 16 TDs and 13 INTs a year ago, this year he threw 33 and 7. I don't like to judge a QB on a single season's stats, one way or the other. Mariota has put up good seasons in the past, and his offensive talent around him this season is pretty terrible outside of his RB's. I don't think Mariota is ever going to be great, but I think he could be in the good enough to win a SB range with the right pieces around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phire Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 minute ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: They are hardly a good team. They are 8-7 and will likely finish 8-8 in an extremely weak AFC. They have no talent on offense and they have a defense that is mediocre at best. Saying he is getting carried isn't accurate because his team in general is not very good. Wentz threw 16 TDs and 13 INTs a year ago, this year he threw 33 and 7. I don't like to judge a QB on a single season's stats, one way or the other. Mariota has put up good seasons in the past, and his offensive talent around him this season is pretty terrible outside of his RB's. I don't think Mariota is ever going to be great, but I think he could be in the good enough to win a SB range with the right pieces around him. I agree with you, that's not a good team. And the QB is part of the problem in my opinion. There are other quarterbacks around the league who play on much worse teams than the Titans who are performing much better than Mariota is. Particularly when you have a running game like that and you're throwing the ball into favorable coverage. That team is bad and he's part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Phire said: I agree with you, that's not a good team. And the QB is part of the problem in my opinion. There are other quarterbacks around the league who play on much worse teams than the Titans who are performing much better than Mariota is. Particularly when you have a running game like that and you're throwing the ball into favorable coverage. That team is bad and he's part of the problem. He is part of the problem, and the Titans could do a lot better, but they could also do a lot worse at QB. He has two more years on his rookie contract, lets see where he goes if the Titans can get him some weapons. I think he will likely be a middle of the pack guy similar to Joe Flacco and Ryan Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlesthought Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 His weapons are either slow or trash. When your best weapon is the TE and no consistency elsewhere you won’t win. Ask Rivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On the bright side, it would take the Browns 26 seasons to get the 13 wins the Eagles totaled this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I read somewhere that Mariota has actually thrown the lowest, or near lowest, INT-worthy passes this year. Haven't watched much of him though. Still think there's a lot of hope with both him and Winston. Glad we have Wentz of course, but I think both of those guys end up being franchise QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 LMAO, Acho always tweets about Eagles stuff. He was critical of the Eagles training staff in the past, guess Eskin didn't like it. This interaction happened today: Eskin is a tool though. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I can't stand Eskin, but he just fired back in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Danger Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Crazy to see Mike Vrabel as a HC. First person I've seen as a player to become an NFL head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Danger said: Crazy to see Mike Vrabel as a HC. First person I've seen as a player to become an NFL head coach. Ummmmm. This guy wants to know where you were in 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Ummmmm. This guy wants to know where you were in 1999 First game I watched was the playoffs in 2000. I was 7 in '99 and no one in my family except me watches sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Interesting game going down in New England today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 really, aside from networks and pats fans who isn't rooting for the jags right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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