AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, theuntouchable said: Read the definition of forcible. his head is pushed back because of direct contact to the facemask by Bahktari. That is the exact definition of “forcible” vigorous and strong; forceful would you describe that shot as vigorous and strong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: This is a mentality that I've developed as well. I don't care if my team scores TDs or FGs: I want my team to win. If they score 0 TDs, 600 FGs and finish the season 16-0, I'm thrilled. The Packers held a lead for 0 seconds. If the game was not ended by a bad call, the Lions likely kick another FG and win the game. That's the disappointing element. It's just spin to direct attention away from what really was the difference in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Nnivolcm said: You admitted it slowed him down. What exactly is forcible if causing the the player's speed to change isn't forcible? Significant contact, are we calling every but of contact on DBs forceful because it causes a player's speed to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: vigorous and strong; forceful would you describe that shot as vigorous and strong? If you can define a guy grabbing another guys shoulder pads and pushing back as hands to the face/neck area, then absolutely does that meet The definition to a tee. (you’re also choosing which specific definition to follow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: No way is an NFL official going to call a glancing blow to the facemask like that. He would be throwing a flag every play. But they DID! Years ago, when they gifted the Packers one more play after Rodgers' facemask was literally grazed. (That last play just so happened to be the infamous hail mary). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, BofaDeez54927 said: It's just spin to direct attention away from what really was the difference in the game. Your red zone offense being an embarrassment and your pass rush being pathetic when not allowed to commit penalties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, TL-TwoWinsAway said: But they DID! Years ago, when they gifted the Packers one more play after Rodgers' facemask was literally grazed. (That last play just so happened to be the infamous hail mary). I like you keep going back there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Significant contact, are we calling every but of contact on DBs forceful because it causes a player's speed to change. I know as a Packer fan you're used to seeing your team illegally pick players downfield on not get flags thrown. For the rest of us we do see those flags in those exact circumstances, because that's the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, theuntouchable said: If you can define a guy grabbing another guys shoulder pads and pushing back as hands to the face/neck area, then absolutely does that meet The definition to a tee. (you’re also choosing which specific definition to follow) Which definition makes more sense in that context? You know I'm correct in the interpretation of the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameson_Neat Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Your red zone offense being an embarrassment and your pass rush being pathetic when not allowed to commit penalties? Almost as pathetic as your defense in this thread. Almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfTheNorth Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: But they DID! Years ago, when they gifted the Packers one more play after Rodgers' facemask was literally grazed. (That last play just so happened to be the infamous hail mary). I think everyone agrees the penalties they call on hits to a QB are soft. Lets not pretend that they use the same logic when talking about 2 lineman hitting each other. Edited October 15, 2019 by KingOfTheNorth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnivolcm Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BofaDeez54927 said: I like you keep going back there... And the silence of the response is deafening... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Nnivolcm said: I know as a Packer fan you're used to seeing your team illegally pick players downfield on not get flags thrown. For the rest of us we do see those flags in those exact circumstances, because that's the rules. As a Lions fan I figured you would be used to utter failure, but it still seems to burn just as much. There's no conspiracy against you. Your team isn't relevant enough to conspire against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Which definition makes more sense in that context? You know I'm correct in the interpretation of the word. Considering his helmet was very clearly pushed up and back because of the contact, it should have been a penalty on Bahktari as well. I can pick and choose how to interpret the definitions just as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: As a Lions fan I figured you would be used to utter failure, but it still seems to burn just as much. There's no conspiracy against you. Your team isn't relevant enough to conspire against. Stay classy friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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