JonStark Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, kramxel said: Can't believe how late I am to this party!!! 2 1st and a 4th?! OMG! WHAT A ROBBERY!!! Did the Bears overpay for Mack? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, JonStark said: Did the Bears overpay for Mack? No the Rams however did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tugboat said: Funny how you've embraced the "Jalen is a distraction" sort of thing now. After defending him for so long, and denying it was an issue. But it's a legit problem. He's got one heck of an ego on him, and absolutely craves the spotlight and attention. Now on top of it, he's got an agent who is banking on Jalen's new deal basically buying him a private island or something...it's not something you can just ignore. Because the guy was the first 1st round pick we've hit on with HOF level potential since I've been a fan of the team. You make excuses for those types of players. Guys like that are usually going to have a lot of diva and "me me me" in them but it sounds like to me the last several months have been a lot worse. I'd say how Jalen has handled things lately and him sitting out games with a fake back injury when he's never missed a game in his college or pro career also shows that. Edited October 16, 2019 by .Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, JonStark said: Did the Bears overpay for Mack? Bears also got a 2nd round pick back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, JonStark said: Did the Bears overpay for Mack? Right! Like yeah, I'm sure you're going to prefer the guys you pick around number #25 in the draft over a top 3 shutdown CB in his prime. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, JonStark said: Did the Bears overpay for Mack? And DE > CB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, JonStark said: Did the Bears overpay for Mack? Not sure I follow the comparison. Mack is a better player at a more valued position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, kramxel said: Not sure I follow the comparison. Mack is a better player at a more valued position. Easily. Not even a comparison between the two deals tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: Easily. Not even a comparison between the two deals tbh. There's clearly a comparison. Each team traded an elite defensivd player that wasn't signing a 2nd deal and wanted to get value before FA. Whether or not the value was the same is one thing but the deals are very comparable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: And DE > CB. This is true, however the impact of a true shutdown corner is getting severely underrated nowadays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 You guys are acting like CB is the RB position of the defense. I agree I'd rather have an elite pass rusher over an elite corner, but the gap isn't as wide as you all are suggesting. A shutdown CB is still extremely valuable. Ask Belichick who he'd rather have. For a team with a reputation of being frugal, they sure break the bank for shutdown CBs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 If Ramsey gets back to caring about football over money, this could come out as an average deal for STL. Its basically a heavier price than CHI paid for Mack for a player that has less impact on the game and is nowhere near the locker room leader than Mack is. To me the split from his father would scare the hell out of me. That's a huge moment in a person's life, to stop talking to your dad, who coached you up for years and from all reports is a terrific guy, because your agent got into your head and adjusted your priorities. That's scary and the attitude issues from Jalen could be a longstanding issue from this point forward IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, JonStark said: This is true, however the impact of a true shutdown corner is getting severely underrated nowadays. Cornerback is the more important position. You don't need a great pass rush to win a Super Bowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, SBLIII said: Cornerback is the more important position. You don't need a great pass rush to win a Super Bowl. I agree. The Giants proved that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art_Vandalay Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, KhanYouDigIt said: I agree. The Giants proved that. You couldn't think of an example after 2011 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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