ET80 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, AntonChigurh said: You might as well say that Mahomes doesn't have an elite arm. Murray's arm is Mahomes level. Goodness, no. Kyler has a great arm, but it's not even in the same stratosphere as Mahomes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonChigurh Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 hours ago, ET80 said: Goodness, no. Kyler has a great arm, but it's not even in the same stratosphere as Mahomes. Yea watch his games, he gets more torque on his throws between 0 50 than mahomes Mahomes has better velocity after 50 though. But its clear murray has an arm on mahomes level to anyone watching his games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 We've seen more talented rookie QBs, but Kyler might be the most fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 43 minutes ago, AntonChigurh said: Yea watch his games, he gets more torque on his throws between 0 50 than mahomes Mahomes has better velocity after 50 though. But its clear murray has an arm on mahomes level to anyone watching his games I've been watching both Mahomes and Murray since their days at Texas Tech and A&M/Oklahoma, respectively. Mahomes is far superior to Kyler in arm strength/talent. It's not even comparable, actually. It's not meant to be a knock on Kyler (his arm talent Russell Wilson-esque which is fine). Mahomes is on another level entirely. Saying otherwise means you haven't seen much of Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Lamar Jackson is better than Kyler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, tyler735 said: Lamar Jackson is better than Kyler. Deshaun Watson is better than Kyler. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchDJ Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, ET80 said: Deshaun Watson is better than Kyler. But you know who’s not? Rosen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, ClutchDJ said: But you know who’s not? Rosen. I'll cop to being wrong on that one... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, ET80 said: I'll cop to being wrong on that one... A lot were. I wanted Rosen/Bosa... Ftr I think Josh would be doing well with Kliff but Murray has the higher ceiling/floor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonChigurh Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 hours ago, ET80 said: I've been watching both Mahomes and Murray since their days at Texas Tech and A&M/Oklahoma, respectively. Mahomes is far superior to Kyler in arm strength/talent. It's not even comparable, actually. It's not meant to be a knock on Kyler (his arm talent Russell Wilson-esque which is fine). Mahomes is on another level entirely. Saying otherwise means you haven't seen much of Mahomes. Not really sure what you are looking at. Mahomes is barely ahead of murray in terms of arm strength and murray is more talented than mahomes in the arm. There is no world in this reality where mahomes has more arm talent than murray. And I love mahomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonChigurh Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 10 hours ago, tyler735 said: Lamar Jackson is better than Kyler. Only at running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, AntonChigurh said: Not really sure what you are looking at. Mahomes is barely ahead of murray in terms of arm strength and murray is more talented than mahomes in the arm. There is no world in this reality where mahomes has more arm talent than murray. And I love mahomes ...so, you haven't seen much of Mahomes. That's what I'm reading. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonChigurh Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, ET80 said: ...so, you haven't seen much of Mahomes. That's what I'm reading. Seen plenty. Murray has better accuracy and anticipation. The cardinals are 6th in yards after catch while having no wrs who can break open against decent corner backs. http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?range=NFL&type=Receiving&rank=231 And the eye test makes in even clear. Murrays throws a very catchable fall just about every drop back. His placement is already elite. And your really underestimating Murray's arm strength because he has a far stronger arm than Russell. Arod esque the way the balls comes out of his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 3 hours ago, AntonChigurh said: Only at running And at being a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 14 hours ago, ET80 said: Deshaun Watson is better than Kyler. Deshaun Watson is a Top 6 QB. Might be a Top 2 QB once they can BoB for Lincoln Riley. Also the best player in Houston, much better than that overrated trash that is James Harden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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