patriotsheatyan Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 When they got the ball with two minutes left in OT, should he have started out with a run or short pass to be safe and ensure Seattle won’t get another meaningful possession? Or gone for a run or short pass on third down to take 40 seconds off? 8-0-1 for them and 7-2-1 puts the Seahawks in a position where it would be incredibly difficult to win the division. 8-1 vs 8-2 with a game in Seattle later? Not such great odds. This might be the difference between a Wild Card and the 1st seed for SF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 You play to win the game. Also, the 3rd option isn't a "tie" choice. Its a logical choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 30 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: You play to win the game. Also, the 3rd option isn't a "tie" choice. Its a logical choice. Hindsight is always 2020 that play Shaqeem Griffin made was amazing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 the answer is 'try for a conservative win' a bunch of running plays win or lose would eat the clock to a tie. Maybe they put you in range for a FG; maybe not. wasting your downs on high risk high reward tosses that only eats 30secs is ill advised. but maybe people would snicker behind your back because of X, Y, Z being 2 games ahead on home field advantage is something worth getting, even if it's off a tie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ryan_W said: the answer is 'try for a conservative win' a bunch of running plays win or lose would eat the clock to a tie. Maybe they put you in range for a FG; maybe not. wasting your downs on high risk high reward tosses that only eats 30secs is ill advised. but maybe people would snicker behind your back because of X, Y, Z being 2 games ahead on home field advantage is something worth getting, even if it's off a tie. I agree, but only because Jimmy G had been tossing should-be picks all game. If you trust your QB to make safe throws, I say go for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 You dont play to tie games. You play to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I'd play for the tie but I'd make it look like we tried to go for it. I'd have Jimmy G throw a few overthrows. If 49ers don't get homefield advantage this game could be the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 You go for the win - no question. Would it have made sense to use some clock to protect yourself against a GWD going the other way? Yeah, but you go for the win 100%. In a game where your two best receivers are hurt and Seattle is rattling your QB, you have to make smart play calls. If Shanahan (or any coach in a similar position) came out and said that they were playing to tie, they’d lose all respect and would go down as spineless - especially against a rival that has a chance at taking the division after said game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeotheLion Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I don't think he should have played to tie but 3 straight passing plays in hindsight wasn't wise. Either a run or a high percentage screen to get yards and run clock to make sure you have the ball last would have been most ideal. A tie would have helped San Fran much more than Seattle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 hours ago, LeotheLion said: I don't think he should have played to tie but 3 straight passing plays in hindsight wasn't wise. Either a run or a high percentage screen to get yards and run clock to make sure you have the ball last would have been most ideal. A tie would have helped San Fran much more than Seattle. This is kind of what I said. I think I probably would have run the ball on first down, maybe run a screen or something like that to just eat the clock up a bit, mainly because I think with timeouts, I think you can still move the ball down the field into FG range with about 1:25 left or so. But it's a minor quibble. I don't really have an issue with the decision, I probably just would have altered the playcalls a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Absolutely, you play to the tie imo. If i'm playing Madden...who cares...but in the real world, with jobs and records on the line, you play the smart ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 What was the time exactly and how many TO’s did Seattle have? If you could’ve guaranteed a tie by running it out I’m sure they would’ve ran on first/second down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tugboat said: Absolutely, you play to the tie imo. If i'm playing Madden...who cares...but in the real world, with jobs and records on the line, you play the smart ball. I feel like a team that is 8-0 at the time probably doesn't have too many concerns over job security 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Just now, Forge said: I feel like a team that is 8-0 at the time probably doesn't have too many concerns over job security That's a gambler's fallacy sort of thing though. I won the last 8, i'm gonna win this one too! I'm a roll!!! You play to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tugboat said: That's a gambler's fallacy sort of thing though. I won the last 8, i'm gonna win this one too! I'm a roll!!! You play to the game to win Added the bolded. And no, that's not the same. The weren't gambling a season away on a single drive. If this season goes bad, it's for reasons a lot bigger than this drive. They had an opportunity to win. They had to go 50 yards in slightly less than two minutes lol. The idea of turtling up for a tie is preposterous. And shanny / Lynch have six year deals with no offset language. They are fine regardless. You can debate the calls they made with regards to the plays, but the idea they should have played for a tie in that situation is silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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