Matts4313 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Uncle Buck said: As a "Clapper", he's an amateur. (He is a pretty good coach though). With the proper training, we will get him up to pro status within 6 months. Just gotta focus on whats important - always clapping for your teammates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: The funny thing about "coach clap" - that term was coined by skip bayless. Which means that his influence is so great with some of you, that Garrett became a meme. Which is fine, if you are going to use Skip Bayless memes, just admit you are Skip Bayless fanboy. Fanboy I am Skip Bayless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Counselor said: Fanboy I am Skip Bayless That makes me Shannon Sharpe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: That makes me Shannon Sharpe? C’mon SKEEEEUP! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: That makes me Shannon Sharpe? Just put a handful of marbles in your mouth before you start talking and nobody will be any the wiser. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Sleeping with the boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles18 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Dak has had his 1-4 WRs and his LT, RT and LG miss time. 3 of those INTs for Dak were tipped passes/hailmary. Wentz has had his 1-2 WRs and LT miss time. Wentz played against Sam Darnold-less Jets. Dak played them with Sam - But we didnt have Cooper, T Smith or L Collins. Wentz beat the Packers throwing like 30 times for 160 yard - it was 100% not him that played the factor in that win. Do you really want to use W/L as a QB stat? Correct me if I am wrong? If Wentz gets blame for not winning games then Dak gets the same luxury. Dallas has the more talented team. Better receivers, better defense, better running back and honestly there is no debating that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Dak has had his 1-4 WRs and his LT, RT and LG miss time. 3 of those INTs for Dak were tipped passes/hailmary. Wentz has had his 1-2 WRs and LT miss time. Wentz played against Sam Darnold-less Jets. Dak played them with Sam - But we didnt have Cooper, T Smith or L Collins. Wentz beat the Packers throwing like 30 times for 160 yard - it was 100% not him that played the factor in that win. Do you really want to use W/L as a QB stat? Correct me if I am wrong? I will correct you because you are wrong. WRs 1-3 Jeffrey has missed 3 games and has been hurt in a couple more Jackson played healthy-ish in 1 game, will miss 14, and was lame in 1 other game Agholor missed 1 game and is a human drop machine. Cooper, Gallup and Cobb have played in 12, 11, and 10 of 12 possible games. This comparison is laughable and foolish to think Dak had it worse. Wentz faced the Seahawks with these 4 WRs: Greg Ward, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Mack Hollins, Jordan Matthews (possibly the worst 1-4 in the NFL this year) He faced the Patriots with these 4 WRs: Agholor, JJ A-W, Hollins, and Matthews (Agholor had 2 drops including the game tying TD in both hands) Wentz's WRs have 98 catches and 8 TDs. Dak's WRs have 160 catches and 14 TDs. Cobb or Gallup would be the #1 WR in 3 Eagles games, and #2 in 7 Eagles games. Wentz's RBs have 44 catches and 2 TDs. The Cowboys guys have 51 and 2 TDs or 61 if you count Tavon Austin as a hybrid. Wentz's TEs have 98 catches and 7 TDs which would be a huge advantaged over most teams. The Cowboys have 70 and 6 TDs Of course Ertz is the best of these 4 guys but he is blanketed because the Eagles have almost no WR threats. Jarwin has caught 81.5% of his targets for 11.9 per catch and 3 TDs because the D has to worry about Zeke and 3 very good WRs. He is wide open almost always. Dak's running game support has 1309 yards rushing with 9 TDs at about 4.5 per pop Wentz's running game support has 1145 yards rushing with 9 TDs at about 4.3 per pop Feel free to rank Zeke and then Jordan Howard as far as RBs go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SkippyX said: I will correct you because you are wrong. WRs 1-3 Jeffrey has missed 3 games and has been hurt in a couple more Jackson played healthy-ish in 1 game, will miss 14, and was lame in 1 other game Agholor missed 1 game and is a human drop machine. Cooper, Gallup and Cobb have played in 12, 11, and 10 of 12 possible games. This comparison is laughable and foolish to think Dak had it worse. Youve not been paying attention. Cooper play 1 series against the Jets and even though he "played" in some of the games, he was mostly a limited snap count decoy. Gallup has been pulled multiple times due to injuries. You also left off Austin who has missed multiple games. Quote Wentz faced the Seahawks with these 4 WRs: Greg Ward, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Mack Hollins, Jordan Matthews (possibly the worst 1-4 in the NFL this year) He faced the Patriots with these 4 WRs: Agholor, JJ A-W, Hollins, and Matthews (Agholor had 2 drops including the game tying TD in both hands) Wentz's WRs have 98 catches and 8 TDs. Dak's WRs have 160 catches and 14 TDs. Cobb or Gallup would be the #1 WR in 3 Eagles games, and #2 in 7 Eagles games. Wentz's RBs have 44 catches and 2 TDs. The Cowboys guys have 51 and 2 TDs or 61 if you count Tavon Austin as a hybrid. Wentz's TEs have 98 catches and 7 TDs which would be a huge advantaged over most teams. The Cowboys have 70 and 6 TDs Of course Ertz is the best of these 4 guys but he is blanketed because the Eagles have almost no WR threats. Jarwin has caught 81.5% of his targets for 11.9 per catch and 3 TDs because the D has to worry about Zeke and 3 very good WRs. He is wide open almost always. Well, Wentz doesnt throw to WRs anyways, so really that TE action is where its at. You are obviously also missing the obvious => Weve thrown the ball like 30% more than you have. Quote Dak's running game support has 1309 yards rushing with 9 TDs at about 4.5 per pop Wentz's running game support has 1145 yards rushing with 9 TDs at about 4.3 per pop Feel free to rank Zeke and then Jordan Howard as far as RBs go. Why would that matter? Every advanced analytic in the world comes to the same solution. Bulk rushing numbers =/= QB performance. But you guys do check down to your RBs a ton (it seems). Maybe put up your RBs receiving numbers. As thats the debate. I assume you are conceding all the other points? Edited November 29, 2019 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Now for the O-lines: The Cowboys O-line has missed a combined 5 games out of a possible 60. The Eagles O-line has missed a combined 4 games out of a possible 55. Both teams tackles have been about the same level of healthy (with Johnson being concussed lately and Collins being more duct taped with nagging injuries) Peters and Smith have both been a mess this year (Peters is old and Smith's back may never be 100% again) Semaulo has been a more healthy worst lineman on the team over Williams. SuaFilo is about the same level as those 2 guys. Yes, playing Williams hurt this week on a short week was stupid (clap clap, clap goes the Garrett) Big V (swing tackle) is the 2nd worst lineman in the league behind Newhouse in New England. Fleming is a huge upgrade over past Cowboys swing tackles and he did a great job on 3 Patriots Super Bowl teams as a spot starter / swing tackle. Every ranking I can find in 5 minutes through 10 weeks has Philly and Dallas as top 5 in O-lines. Edited November 29, 2019 by SkippyX 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: You also left off Austin who has missed multiple games. You consider Austin a factor in an NFL passing game. This explains much. The guy is sub-replacement level. Bryant or Smith are better options. Are you really crying about your at best 6th option in the passing game? Yes Cooper has been playing hurt a bunch. So has Jeffrey. Your point is pointless. DeSean Jackson has played in 1 game and 1 series all year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 As to this nugget: Wentz beat the Packers throwing like 30 times for 160 yard - it was 100% not him that played the factor in that win. Do you really want to use W/L as a QB stat? Wentz was incredibly efficient and had 3 TDs (you hid that stat for some reason. Could it be that your argument is weak perhaps?) Dak completed 30 passes against the Packers but 3 of the 30 went to Packers! Dak threw for 330+ against Buffalo and was hideous. (fumble, 2 failed 4th downs, 2 picks (ref Party-Bus'ed a fake penalty on pick 2)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, SkippyX said: You consider Austin a factor in an NFL passing game. This explains much. The guy is sub-replacement level. Bryant or Smith are better options. Are you really crying about your at best 6th option in the passing game? Yes Cooper has been playing hurt a bunch. So has Jeffrey. Your point is pointless. DeSean Jackson has played in 1 game and 1 series all year. Is having 2 plays in 1 series considered missing a game? How strict are we being here? What about playing <10 snaps, how does that count? <20? Just curious. Because our guys have tried to play a lot of games. Played a few snaps, then didnt play any more. (like Collins in the Jets game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Uncle Buck said: Has a team ever made the playoffs without beating any winning teams during the year? Dallas has Bears, Rams, Eagles, and Redskins left to play. It could happen. It would be incredible if they made the playoffs in that fashion and then suddenly found a way to put it all together and go on a run and get to the Super Bowl. I can only say the 7-9 Seahawks did in fact beat teams that were above .500. They were the only playoff team in recent memory I thought the record was bad enough to check to see if they had beat anyone above .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolmesPriest Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 I think Jerry Jones, and/or others in the front office painted themselves into a corner on this whole situations. Danged if they do and danged if they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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