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I think hell end up going for a high second and like a 4th.

I'd love to add a 2nd to be able to afford that easier. 

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I’m not a big fan of the give up a high draft pick for the right to give a guy a huge contract strategy but it did work out for the 2 teams in the SB last year.  Still feels like a bad strategy but he’s a baller I wouldn’t be mad if they gave up 35 or next years 2nd and a mid this year.  

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8 hours ago, BigC421/ said:

I’m not a big fan of the give up a high draft pick for the right to give a guy a huge contract strategy but it did work out for the 2 teams in the SB last year.  Still feels like a bad strategy but he’s a baller I wouldn’t be mad if they gave up 35 or next years 2nd and a mid this year.  

yeah, I'm with you on this one.  If you are a contender than that's one thing, but a team like the Lions, I think I'll pass.

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2 hours ago, LionArkie said:

yeah, I'm with you on this one.  If you are a contender than that's one thing, but a team like the Lions, I think I'll pass.

In fairness, that's how we can become a team in the mix. We have decent draft capital now and will acquire more in a trade down scenario. We should be able to get at least 1-2 impact players from the draft plus additional depth. Add in another impact guy and we can be the post-Khalil Mack trade Bears with hopefully more longevity (since we don't have Trubisky under center). 

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5 minutes ago, Karnage84 said:

In fairness, that's how we can become a team in the mix. We have decent draft capital now and will acquire more in a trade down scenario. We should be able to get at least 1-2 impact players from the draft plus additional depth. Add in another impact guy and we can be the post-Khalil Mack trade Bears with hopefully more longevity (since we don't have Trubisky under center). 

Except that is keeping salary out of the equation which is what I was agreeing with.  I'd rather have the draft pick, low cost player for 4-5 years and the ability to pick up whoever next year when we are closer, younger, and know more about what we have as a team. I'm not certain we're as close as everyone thinks we are.  Next year we will have to deal with our offensive line, once again. So, no, I don't want to give up a high draft pick for him.

I can see the argument, and I wouldn't hate it, but I don't know if it would be my preference.

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2 hours ago, LionArkie said:

Except that is keeping salary out of the equation which is what I was agreeing with.  I'd rather have the draft pick, low cost player for 4-5 years and the ability to pick up whoever next year when we are closer, younger, and know more about what we have as a team. I'm not certain we're as close as everyone thinks we are.  Next year we will have to deal with our offensive line, once again. So, no, I don't want to give up a high draft pick for him.

I can see the argument, and I wouldn't hate it, but I don't know if it would be my preference.

You're going to have needs on your team every single year. Players get old, guys become FA's, draft picks are up for re-signing, etc. Next year we have Stafford being one year older and the other teams in our division having another full off-season to update their own rosters. 

With Yannick, you're getting another 2 years out of the guy vs Clowney. Yannick is 25 while Clowney is 27. 

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26 minutes ago, Karnage84 said:

You're going to have needs on your team every single year. Players get old, guys become FA's, draft picks are up for re-signing, etc. Next year we have Stafford being one year older and the other teams in our division having another full off-season to update their own rosters. 

With Yannick, you're getting another 2 years out of the guy vs Clowney. Yannick is 25 while Clowney is 27. 

Yannick is 25 while draft pick is 22 and 15 million more.  Like I said, I don't disagree with the logic and wouldn't hate it.  But I don't think we are one piece away and would rather have the draft capital and money than neither of those and Yanick.  Just my preference.

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40 minutes ago, Karnage84 said:

You're going to have needs on your team every single year. Players get old, guys become FA's, draft picks are up for re-signing, etc. Next year we have Stafford being one year older and the other teams in our division having another full off-season to update their own rosters. 

With Yannick, you're getting another 2 years out of the guy vs Clowney. Yannick is 25 while Clowney is 27. 

We wouldnt likely keep them until the end of their careers.  Its a 2/3 year deal IMO, which would be our window with Stafford.  I would easily rather have a 27 year old Clowney and a higher pick than Yannick and likely more money.  They both are in their primes, and both would help the roster, but one doesnt cost picks and the other does. 

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13 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

We wouldnt likely keep them until the end of their careers.  Its a 2/3 year deal IMO, which would be our window with Stafford.  I would easily rather have a 27 year old Clowney and a higher pick than Yannick and likely more money.  They both are in their primes, and both would help the roster, but one doesnt cost picks and the other does. 

Agreed.

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7 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said:

I'd rather just sign Clowney than give up picks and a big contract to Yannick.  

I think id take a 1-2 deal on Clowney(he said he wants to go to winning team) and i would do a longer term contract to Yannick.

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off the way idea. what if we traded down with the chargers(there in trouble next yr with FA's) if we made a deal swapped 3&6 and they included Melvin Ingram and like a 3rd next year. so 6, Ingram & 3rd next year for 3rd and 6th rd... we give Ingram a short deal. and get either Okudah, Brown or ISAIAH SIMMONS at 6(unless we trade down again). 

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The only thing I want to throw out is paying money to a proven player who excels at a position of great need isn’t wrong. You have to pay money to some of your players and a draft pick doesn’t always get you the performance you’re trying to achieve. 
 

If the Lions can get a player that provides pressure off the edge and a penetrating DT they would field an effective dline. Throw in a starting CB and just maybe the defence becomes a quality unit.

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If they could trade back even for just an additional 2nd  + something and trade that 2nd for Yannick plus come away with Okudah and Gallimore/Lynch/Blacklock.  That could really transform the face of the D for both the future and present.  It be a lot of $ into the DE position but we’d have Yannick and Flowers playing out there primes together with a #1 corner on a rookie contract.  

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It's been pretty quiet as of late for signings, but here's a little nugget.  He's a serviceable back-up when/if healthy.  

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