holyghost Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I'm all for Derwin James at WLB. Why not. We all get the LB we have been clamoring for and a potential defensive leader. We need an active defensive leader badly, Mack is a passive type. Offense or corner in rounds 2,3,4 OT RB CB. Despite heavy defensive needs the offense has been neglected in the draft for a while. Too bad we don't have more early picks as a DE and DT are big fat needs too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, holyghost said: I'm all for Derwin James at WLB. Why not. We all get the LB we have been clamoring for and a potential defensive leader. We need an active defensive leader badly, Mack is a passive type. Offense or corner in rounds 2,3,4 OT RB CB. Despite heavy defensive needs the offense has been neglected in the draft for a while. Too bad we don't have more early picks as a DE and DT are big fat needs too. I like James as a prospect but just playing devils advocate here. The why not is that he's 215 pounds and has never played a strict WLB role. To take a prospect at 10 overall, who''s undersized for that position and just pencil him in at a position he's never truly played before is wishful thinking. I can only imagine the uproar of us taking James at 10 and then watching him get washed out at LB play after play. IMO if we select James it has to be in a hybrid role that allows him to play to his strengths early while working on the nuances of the LB position, you want a top 10 pick to play early obviously and in James case that has to be in secondary IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyghost Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: I like James as a prospect but just playing devils advocate here. The why not is that he's 215 pounds and has never played a strict WLB role. To take a prospect at 10 overall, who''s undersized for that position and just pencil him in at a position he's never truly played before is wishful thinking. I can only imagine the uproar of us taking James at 10 and then watching him get washed out at LB play after play. IMO if we select James it has to be in a hybrid role that allows him to play to his strengths early while working on the nuances of the LB position, you want a top 10 pick to play early obviously and in James case that has to be in secondary IMO. I am totally in agreement with you. But in thinking about it I have come to terms with something. Our defense is trash. It's more important at this point that we pick a star at any position than it is to fill a need spot. So if James is going to be played at safety, no problem here. I was just putting out the idea that we could play a fast small version of defense (with obvious flaws) and keep Joseph and Melifonwu on the field. It's a bad look to take a safety after a 1st rounder and 2nd rounder in two years. But it doesn't bother me, I'm not the GM who looks like garbage over it all. Better to have a fast small flawed defense that is getting better than to have the type of defense you want in terms of size and roles but have it be garbage. I merely believe James is the star that could be had at our spot, and we need an agressive leader type on D as well. His position is an unfortunate thing, I wish he was a full on linebacker but he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, CaliforniaKid7 said: I like James as a prospect but just playing devils advocate here. The why not is that he's 215 pounds and has never played a strict WLB role. To take a prospect at 10 overall, who''s undersized for that position and just pencil him in at a position he's never truly played before is wishful thinking. I can only imagine the uproar of us taking James at 10 and then watching him get washed out at LB play after play. IMO if we select James it has to be in a hybrid role that allows him to play to his strengths early while working on the nuances of the LB position, you want a top 10 pick to play early obviously and in James case that has to be in secondary IMO. Certain position changes are more predictable than others. Safeties have routinely successfully transitioned into a linebacker role, and Derwin James has played linebacker nearly as much as he's played safety at Florida State. Conversely, I don't think Minkah Fitzpatrick would make a good corner right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaKid7 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Agree with both of us posts above. James will make an impact and he’ll be a great player in this league. I was more just cautioning against the idea he would step in as a WLB day one. It’s defintely something i think he can do eventually. Im all for him being the pick of the board falls that way. Talent and speed is something you can never have enough of on either side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD1123 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Bold predictions. Reg will draft a player whose name I will have to learn how to pronounce. Reg will NOT draft the person I want in round 1 or 2 or possibly 3. Reg will reach in round 2 or 3 (badly) 4. We will draft one player at some point that will have everyone wondering who is that and saying I'll be right back I'm going to youtube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm starting to dig SMU receiver Courtland Sutton. I'm getting Allen Robinson and Michael Thomas vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigD1123 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 What I really want from this draft is 3 to 4 players. I really don' care what position. That are good enough that they are here for their second and third contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Rich7sena said: I'm starting to dig SMU receiver Courtland Sutton. I'm getting Allen Robinson and Michael Thomas vibes. agreed.. I'd be happy with him in 2nd. especially if we trade back in first and have two, #2s. first round has to be Def or oline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Vita Vea and Sony Michel are the two players I hope we get in this draft. Then Edge or CB in the third. Draft like 3-4 CB's in the 6th and hope one sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 My ideal draft: trade back 1st: Harold rusher 2nd: Wr/OL/Rb 2nd: Cb/LB/DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, roi34 said: agreed.. I'd be happy with him in 2nd. especially if we trade back in first and have two, #2s. first round has to be Def or oline. Meh I like Eq StBrown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I like Auden Tate from FSU WR too a lot for big body sure handed guy. Prob be had in 4th. Under used in college and will play with better qb in nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bob Dobalina Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Swapping out a slow old Jordy Nelson for Crabtree would be a clear downgrade at the position.We need to draft a Burner WR in Rounds 3-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roi34 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mr Bob Dobalina said: Swapping out a slow old Jordy Nelson for Crabtree would be a clear downgrade at the position.We need to draft a Burner WR in Rounds 3-5 This is being overrated now. Crabs is two years younger but Nelson for the first several games was still productive. Crabs has always been pretty slow too. it's closer to a wash than downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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