minutemancl Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, BowlesDawgDX said: I think if anyone actually trades up into the top 10, picks 6-9 (nice) are probably the sweet spot If you are trading up in this draft, you are doing it for a QB, CB, or WR, IMO. I think the top edge guys are gone early, as are the top tackles. Moving into the top 5 would cost a fortune, but if you want your choice of QBs, 5 is where you want to be (ahead of Carolina). If you want a WR, you want to jump Atlanta at 8 and the Jets at 10, so 7 and 9 are good spots. For corner, you want to jump the Giants, Falcons, Seahawks, Jets at 7-10, so 6 is the sweet spot. So I'm saying 5-9, but yeah, I'm right there with you on that. I'd be surprised if we got movement before 5 honestly. But the 2nd half of the top 10 could be hectic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I’m seeing some people justify Walker’s lack of production because of “what he was asked to do” and it reminds me a ton of Barkevious Mingo’s final year at LSU where his production wasn’t great and the reasoning was “what he was asked to do” Mingo did not live up to the hype or draft slot. Still carved out a nice career. Just something to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, minutemancl said: 20 + 52 + 2nd rounder next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, paul-mac said: 20 + 52 + 2nd rounder next year? Depends if it is for a QB or not. According to the traditional draft trade value chart, pick 7 is worth 1500. 20 + 52 + 2023 2nd = 850 + 380 + estimated 300 gets you to 1530, so that's about even if it is for a position player. If it is for a QB, it's gonna be much more than that. To get to 11 from 20 last year, Chicago traded 20 + 164 + 2022 1st + 2022 4th, which equals about 1509 while pick 11 is worth 1250. Pitt would probably have to include their 2023 first to move from 20 to 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Depends if it is for a QB or not. According to the traditional draft trade value chart, pick 7 is worth 1500. 20 + 52 + 2023 2nd = 850 + 380 + estimated 300 gets you to 1530, so that's about even if it is for a position player. If it is for a QB, it's gonna be much more than that. To get to 11 from 20 last year, Chicago traded 20 + 164 + 2022 1st + 2022 4th, which equals about 1509 while pick 11 is worth 1250. Pitt would probably have to include their 2023 first to move from 20 to 7. You think the Giants GM is gonna be like “Are you taking a QB? If so, the price goes up” The only reason trade ups for QBs have historically been expensive are because there’s usually a bidding war going on between multiple different teams. It’s not clear that bidding war exists in a weak QB class like this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Also the loophole, the Steelers could lie and say they’re not taking Willis to get the trade done, then just take him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techbert Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, .Buzz said: 💥 I have 21 names instead of these 4 that they could pick and make themselves a better team. Yeah, I know they are not picking Zion Johnson, et. al. but it would be glorious! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minutemancl Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Techbert said: I have 21 names instead of these 4 that they could pick and make themselves a better team. Yeah, I know they are not picking Zion Johnson, et. al. but it would be glorious! Haha I definitely don’t agree, but that’s the fun of this whole process! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Wow Wow indeed. That could cause a huge shakeup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ravishingone Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, .Buzz said: That's a wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Ben Allbright has said similar as well. Both were on the JA to Buffalo train before anyone else in 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, ravishingone said: That's a wow. Couple more people echoing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Love love love JJ. Hopefully he doesn’t get to the Falcons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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