NYRaider Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: Gane is a preview of what Jones would be at Heavyweight and, so far, no true Heavyweights have an answer. I disagree. Gane's striking is next level at heavyweight, he outclassed Lewis on the feet tonight and is undefeated in Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, and MMA. He's a world class striker. I think Jones can be successful against heavyweights but he'd likely have to take a a much heavier wrestling/grappling approach against top tier HWs, which he is definitely capable of doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: Jones is the same caliber of athlete as Gane. Gane also has 4 finishes in 10 fights. Let's not pretend he has world stopper power. The type of athlete that Gane/Jones are, are a problem for traditional heavyweights. There's no questioning that. Gane also has 9 KO's in 13 kick boxing bouts. He doesn't have world stopping power but he's clearly an elite striker and has a high fight IQ, I'd say one of the main reasons he doesn't have more KO's is because he doesn't get baited into fire fights with other heavy weights. Jones has 2 KO's in the last 10 years and they came against Chael Sonnen and Alexander Gustaffason. I agree that they're both problems for traditional heavy weights but for different reasons. Gane is a problem because of his ability to control range and high level striking ability. While Jones is a problem because of his grappling and cardio. Neither guy is going to stand and trade with guys that have 1 punch KO power, I just think they'd take a much different approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: Jon may never actually win HW gold but he's going to get there and be a contender/threat rather quickly. Of any fighter on the roster I think Jones probably has the best chance to beat Francis if he can implement a similar strategy to what Stipe used during their first fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 hours ago, beekay414 said: Heavyweights can't handle the leg kicks and the movement of a Gane and what exactly does Jones do? Yeah. Thanks. Jones is going to be a problem at Heavyweight and there's really nothing to argue against it. My only thing with Jones now is I just want to see him fight at HW to see how he carries the weight and if it changes how he fights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I disagree. Gane's striking is next level at heavyweight, he outclassed Lewis on the feet tonight and is undefeated in Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, and MMA. He's a world class striker. I think Jones can be successful against heavyweights but he'd likely have to take a a much heavier wrestling/grappling approach against top tier HWs, which he is definitely capable of doing. No disrespect to Lewis but outclassing him on the feet is just what Volkov did too for 14:50 on their fight. Lewis is all or nothing on that 1 punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 hours ago, beekay414 said: Yeah I didn't get the KK love. She hasn't won in years. I did have pause with Penne since her win was so close but KK hadnt fought in over a year too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 hours ago, beekay414 said: BK's UFC Pick'em Standings@big poppa pump - 117@JaguarCrazy2832 - 100@JonStark - 100@beekay414 - 99@Buckrock101 - 84@11sanchez11 - 38@FinneasGage - 26@NYRaider - 20@BullsandBroncos - 19 I’m just as surprised as everyone else that I gained ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 6 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jones has 2 KO's in the last 10 years and they came against Chael Sonnen and Alexander Gustaffason. Oof. That's a pretty crazy stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, JonStark said: Oof. That's a pretty crazy stat. The real thing is, how many of his KO/TKOs aren't from ground and pound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggust Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 7 hours ago, NYRaider said: Jones has 2 KO's in the last 10 years and they came against Chael Sonnen and Alexander Gustaffason. 3* even if it's asterisked =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, JonStark said: Oof. That's a pretty crazy stat. In his defense he does have 3 subs from 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, BullsandBroncos said: The real thing is, how many of his KO/TKOs aren't from ground and pound? 0, Chael and Gusty we’re definitely GnP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Anyone know why Rogan wasn’t there last night? It was in Texas where he lives now so thought that was weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonStark Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, BullsandBroncos said: The real thing is, how many of his KO/TKOs aren't from ground and pound? I feel like we need pink suit guy to ask the question at his presser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, agarcia34 said: Anyone know why Rogan wasn’t there last night? It was in Texas where he lives now so thought that was weird He was in Milwaukee on his comedy tour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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