TheGame316 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, matt79511 said: So much embellishment Next year is our Armaggedon when D-Law and Amari cost $44M combined with no outs. This year, Lawrence as 22, which is bad, but Cooper's at 12, which is fine. The OL deals are all fine. Crawford's is bad but it's not a total killer. Zeke's contract is ridiculous but that has more to do with how long we're committed to him than his 2020 number. McCoy, Poe, Dix, Jarwin, Brown, and more are savvy deals. Two weeks ago, the owner/operator of the most reputed salary cap website on the internet spent half an hour going on about how well positioned he sees us as being, that all we've messed up is the Zeke contract and the Dak negotiations. But go ahead with your doomsday shticks Who says doomsday? It's just all the other teams who are better positioned from a talent standpoint because they have EXTREME cap values at positions that are usually very expensive We have to play these teams and beat these teams Unless going 10-6 winning a division and then losing to one of those teams in the divisional round suits your fancy We are paying "Retail" at QB, RB, WR, DE, Guard, LB, etc, etc, etc, - Our competition is paying either wholesale or peanuts. That means they have extra money to spend at other positions that we don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, matt79511 said: So much embellishment Next year is our Armaggedon when D-Law and Amari cost $44M combined with no outs. This year, Lawrence is at 22, which is bad, but Cooper's at 12, which is fine. The OL deals are all good values. Crawford's deal is bad but it's not a total killer. Zeke's contract is ridiculous but that has more to do with how long we're committed to him than his 2020 cap number. McCoy, Poe, Dix, Jarwin, Brown, and more are savvy deals. Two weeks ago, the owner/operator of the most well-reputed NFL salary cap website on the internet spent half an hour going on about how well positioned he sees us as being, that all we've messed up is the Zeke contract and the Dak negotiations. But go ahead with your doomsday shticks What was so doomsday about my post? All I said was you cant just compare years. Also didnt say we couldnt fill these positions. But again my concerns would be how Dak fairs with lesser parts. Saw him without Amari. Not good. Without Tyron in 2017. Not good. Without Zeke. Not good. He might be able to overcome that now but we dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 (Somebody should tell him Jimmy G signed for a huge contract. May have been #1 in the NFL at the time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TheGame316 said: We are paying "Retail" at QB, RB, WR, DE, Guard, LB, etc, etc, etc, - Our competition is paying either wholesale or peanuts. That means they have extra money to spend at other positions that we don't What even is this? Every other team isn't picking positional units to invest in long-term and others to go year-by-year? If you wanted to argue that paying "retail" at RB or LB is ridiculous then I'll listen but that would require disparaging players on this team other than persona non grata This team isn't as balanced as last year's but could have as strong of a receiving corps and pass rush as any in the league, if all breaks right. That can be enough to overwhelm teams even with the most meh of QBs- look no further than the 2011 Giants Edited May 11, 2020 by matt79511 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGame316 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: (Somebody should tell him Jimmy G signed for a huge contract. May have been #1 in the NFL at the time) (Someone should tell Matts that the 49ers had spent years in the basement accumulating draft picks and built what is maybe the best defense in the game right now and they are all playing on Rookie contracts that represent extreme value for their level of play. It means the 49ers can splurge at other positions, but it will catch up with them very soon) (We had our window with Dak, Zeke, Jaylon, Martin, Jones, DLaw on cheap deals and we didn't get it done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Matts4313 said: (Somebody should tell him Jimmy G signed for a huge contract. May have been #1 in the NFL at the time) You do realize they had to trade Buckner because they couldn't afford his contract right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Calvert28 said: You do realize they had to trade Buckner because they couldn't afford his contract right? Nah. You can always afford any contract if you want it bad enough. They traded him because they believed a 1st round pick was more valuable than paying him $21m/yr. With the fact that Bosa and Armstead are both going to require $20m/yr deals + they had another 1st rounder on the bench.. he became expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Dallas94Ware said: Easier to replace a WR than a QB. Ask cincy, arizona, oakland, Washington, Cleveland, and all those teams who for 15, 20, 25 years were seeking franchise QBs. In that same time frame, how many star WRs, LBs, DLs OLs RBs etc did they have, but poured so.many resources into QB position with no or little luck? Is it? I'd ask the Eagles, 49ers, Ravens, Giants, Panthers, and the Rams if its a absolute necessity to have a great QB to reach/win the SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Nah. You can always afford any contract if you want it bad enough. They traded him because they believed a 1st round pick was more valuable than paying him $21m/yr. With the fact that Bosa and Armstead are both going to require $20m/yr deals + they had another 1st rounder on the bench.. he became expendable. sounds like Dak is becoming more expendable by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: sounds like Dak is becoming more expendable by the day. Cant tell if you are mocking or being dense. If we need to save money, we do it by getting rid of low priority positions (RB) not the most important position (QB). We do it by drafting replacement (WR, JonesCB). Some of the salaries will go away naturally through trades, retirements, cutes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Cant tell if you are mocking or being dense. If we need to save money, we do it by getting rid of low priority positions (RB) not the most important position (QB). We do it by drafting replacement (WR, JonesCB). Some of the salaries will go away naturally through trades, retirements, cutes, etc. The most important position are routinely even shown to be overrated with the right talent on the team and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: The most important position are routinely even shown to be overrated with the right talent on the team and coaching. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Nope 49ers twice, Eagles, Ravens twice, Panthers, Giants thrice, broncos, Bucs, bears, among others disagree. Thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Calvert28 said: 49ers twice, Eagles, Ravens twice, Panthers, Giants thrice, broncos, Bucs, bears, among others disagree. Thanks for playing. I dont know what this is supposed to mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: I dont know what this is supposed to mean. Go look up past super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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