Worm Guts Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Vikes_Bolts1228 said: Well it didn't go bad overnight. A knee doesn't go from fine to "he may not ever play again" overnight when it doesn't involve some type of sudden injury to a ligament, bone, joint, etc. like an ACL, break, or dislocation. His knee has probably been bad for a while but whatever he did to it in week 1 made things worse. If your car's starter has been giving you troubles for a year and it finally quits turning over one morning, do you say "my starter just went bad overnight?" Obviously his knee had issues, but I've never seen a knee go bad this way. That doesn't mean it can't happen, just that I have watched a lot of sports over a significant period of time this would strike me as unusual. Ive seen players never come back from injuries the same and I've seen players gradually decline, but going from having the best game of your career to never being able to play again without some sort of event in between is unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Worm Guts said: Obviously his knee had issues, but I've never seen a knee go bad this way. That doesn't mean it can't happen, just that I have watched a lot of sports over a significant period of time this would strike me as unusual. Ive seen players never come back from injuries the same and I've seen players gradually decline, but going from having the best game of your career to never being able to play again without some sort of event in between is unusual. Once you injure a ligament it will never be as strong again. Bradford has torn that ACL twice. He probably has very little strength and structure left in that knee. For a QB you don't really notice it because he doesn't move around a lot, but all it takes is the wrong sort of hit (doesn't even need to be hard) and it'll get hurt again. That is exactly what happened here, and it'll probably happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Count me in with those not willing to commit to Bradford long term either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Yeah, I think last year there was a lot of hype for him, but most of us were thinking, what if something happens. With the number of injuries it seems like a when as much as an if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Regenokine procedures are generally a last resort type of treatment. If that’s where Bradford is at in his recovery, it’s a very bad sign. didn't help Sidney Rice any, like you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Heimdallr said: Once you injure a ligament it will never be as strong again. Bradford has torn that ACL twice. He probably has very little strength and structure left in that knee. For a QB you don't really notice it because he doesn't move around a lot, but all it takes is the wrong sort of hit (doesn't even need to be hard) and it'll get hurt again. That is exactly what happened here, and it'll probably happen again. I've seen Terry Allen and Robert Smith come back and have big years after multiple ligament tears. I've also seen players who couldn't come back or players who have come back were never the same. I just haven't seen whatever this is before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Bradford's knee issue reminds me so much of the end of Joe Namath's career. Joe had such significant knee damage in both that even when he felt better, he had no confidence. He felt that a strong wind could've aggravated his knee. This is the dynamic I saw with Sam on the Monday night game in Chicago. Whether or not his knee is exhibiting an actual injury or not, Bradford has no confidence that his knee will hold up...and there is no surgery that repairs confidence and trust in self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, Virginia Viking said: Bradford's knee issue reminds me so much of the end of Joe Namath's career. fun fact for you kiddies out there: Joe Namath's rookie contract was considered enormous at the time, and a great risk for the Jets. it was an unheard of amount. $400,000 and a new Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 His surgeon is in Florida. If he is having some work done or been told to rest his leg, why not be in Florida? He obviously isn't playing any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 23 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: His surgeon is in Florida. If he is having some work done or been told to rest his leg, why not be in Florida? He obviously isn't playing any time soon. Certainly a possibility, but his surgeon is 9 hours away from Palm Beach. And that wouldn’t explain why Zimmer said Bradford was in MN. Just an interesting situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just as long as he's not rehabbing in a gym next door to a Chinese restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bradford looked finished in Chicago, in his mind. He should probably hang it up before he gets hurt worse. If nothing else, he filled in for Teddy during a crucial year and proved that he could last a full season as a decent QB, which is more than a lot of us expected. I'm grateful to him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, y*so*blu said: Bradford looked finished in Chicago, in his mind. He should probably hang it up before he gets hurt worse. If nothing else, he filled in for Teddy during a crucial year and proved that he could last a full season as a decent QB, which is more than a lot of us expected. I'm grateful to him for that. Probably could have found a much cheaper option to fill that role that didn't require trading a first round pick. The trade looks bad in hindsight given that MN failed to make the playoffs with Bradford. MN miscalculated Bradfords health, I doubt they make that trade knowing that he'd only be healthy for one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Probably could have found a much cheaper option to fill that role that didn't require trading a first round pick. The trade looks bad in hindsight given that MN failed to make the playoffs with Bradford. MN miscalculated Bradfords health, I doubt they make that trade knowing that he'd only be healthy for one year. Yeah, it might look bad in hindsight, but it wasn't Bradford's fault that we didn't make the playoffs. As SemperFeist points out, he checked down a lot and his pocket awareness left something to be desired. But not many quarterbacks out there could have done as well as he did behind our anemic ground attack and bad offensive line. I also was hoping he'd be a viable option for more than one full season, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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