Thaiphoon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, lavar703 said: Shelton to me was way more explosive. I also think Payne is a much better prospect than Vea though. I can see that. And certainly wouldn't cry too much over one or the other. For me, the guy everyone loves who I think will bust is Roquan Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, ripsean21 said: I rarely ever actually see strength when I watch him play. Idk I am completely with Lavar and Knight about Vea I just never saw anything against any real worthy opponent that made me say yeah round 1 top end talent. I know me and knight will never agree about the FS position lol but I don’t see Vea as much better of a player then Settle if you want my honest opinion. In fact I’d take the DT from Florida to play DE in the first over taking Vea I’ll admit it 50 million times if I’m wrong and if he’s our pick I hope I eat it but I don’t see it As someone that watches UW football. Vea sets the tone up front for that defense. Rarely pushed back, he would immediately clog the center for us. I like Settle as well, but I think he lacks Vea’s athleticism. As for adding another 3-4 DE, I think I will pass on anyone, draft or otherwise. I doubt Settle will be around for our second round pick, but he would be a good alternative if we went a different direction in the first. I think it’s just a matter of preference for Payne or Vea, but I think Vea suits our needs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: I can see that. And certainly wouldn't cry too much over one or the other. For me, the guy everyone loves who I think will bust is Roquan Smith. Too much Aaron Curry for ya? I really like Smith. Can cover and play the run. His closing speed is top notch. He diagnosis plays well. But Aaron Curry was one of the “safest picks” when he was drafted. I could see the potential for a similar situation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, HTTRG3Dynasty said: How is the slot playing him completely out of position? Because he’s not a slot corner, he’s a natural safety. This is no different than drafting Orakpo and making him a 4-3 OLB. You don’t use the 13th pick in the draft on a slot corner or part time player. If you draft Fitz than he’s starting at safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, lavar703 said: Because he’s not a slot corner, he’s a natural safety. This is no different than drafting Orakpo and making him a 4-3 OLB. You don’t use the 13th pick in the draft on a slot corner or part time player. If you draft Fitz than he’s starting at safety. Nah, I think he starts at slot CB if he's drafted by us. Gruden loves Montae, and I don't blame him. Montae showed a lot of potential last year. But with him being so injury-prone, and us having no good options at back-up FS, Fitz is perfect to have as an option just in case. In the meantime, he can man the slot position for us and/or be a swiss army knife around the LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor made Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 54 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: I can see that. And certainly wouldn't cry too much over one or the other. For me, the guy everyone loves who I think will bust is Roquan Smith. Roq would get torn up in our 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: Too much Aaron Curry for ya? I really like Smith. Can cover and play the run. His closing speed is top notch. He diagnosis plays well. But Aaron Curry was one of the “safest picks” when he was drafted. I could see the potential for a similar situation here. From what I've seen from him, he runs around blocks too much and relies too much on his speed. Sometimes you need to be taking on and beating the blocks. He doesn't do it enough for my taste. But I could be wrong. Maybe he gets in the right situation and the right coaching and he earns the "Safe" pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I don't know the ratio of Cooley's hits to misses but... Burgundy Blog @BurgundyBlog FWIW, Cooley said it again today: "I know the #Redskins like Da'Ron Payne more than they like Vita Vea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: I don't know the ratio of Cooley's hits to misses but... Burgundy Blog @BurgundyBlog FWIW, Cooley said it again today: "I know the #Redskins like Da'Ron Payne more than they like Vita Vea." Probably from first hand knowledge via Jon Allen. Hey, if Payne is the selection, so be it, at least they drafted a NT. I hope him and Jon Allen tear it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: Probably from first hand knowledge via Jon Allen. Hey, if Payne is the selection, so be it, at least they drafted a NT. I hope him and Jon Allen tear it up. I never saw him as a NT though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: I never saw him as a NT though... Seriously? Every Alabama game I watched, he was anchoring the middle of the line (when they only used 3 down lineman). I absolutely think if you draft him, he HAS to play NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: Seriously? Every Alabama game I watched, he was anchoring the middle of the line (when they only used 3 down lineman). I absolutely think if you draft him, he HAS to play NT. Yeah seriously. With his size and speed, I don't think you're using him properly if you're asking him to just try and clog holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 For what it's worth: Both McShay and Kiper have the Redskins taking Vea and the Chargers taking Payne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeT14 said: Yeah seriously. With his size and speed, I don't think you're using him properly if you're asking him to just try and clog holes. His versatility is why he's a first round pick. We could use him on pass rushing downs too. If we want a 2 down run stuffing NT we should take one in the 4th round or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Might mean that Mayfield might be a trade target for a team (like, I dunno, the Patriots?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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