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Dashing202

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21 hours ago, lavar703 said:

He's got a long way to go as an NFL quarterback. Unless I'm mistaken he plays exclusively in shotgun and has trouble reading defenses. He's a gunslinger as well which would be fine if he had the arm strength to match the mentality. With that said, I think if someone works with him then he's going to be a star. Put him behind a good OL with a strong run game and let him develop properly. He reminds me a lot of Deshaun Watson. Similar build and playing style.

Shoot I feel he's Deshaun Watson than we need to draft this man than.

running back wise I could see the skins giving Perine a full shot next season.

gruden loves having mediocre running backs .

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2 hours ago, Thaiphoon said:

We are currently drafting 10th.

11th, and we'll be 12th assuming the Steelers dispatch the Bengals tomorrow. 

                    REC     WK 14	PROJ		NEW POS
 1. Cleveland       0-12    v GRB	LOSS -> 0-13	1
 2. NY Giants       2-10    v DAL	LOSS -> 2-11	2
 3. San Francisco   2-10    @ HOU	LOSS -> 2-11	3
 4. Denver          3-9     v NYJ	WIN? -> 4-9	6
 5. Indianapolis    3-9     @ BUF	LOSS -> 3-10	4
 6. Chicago         3-9     @ CIN	LOSS -> 3-10	5
 7. Houston         4-8     v SFO	WIN  -> 5-8	9/10
 8. Tampa Bay       4-8     v DET	LOSS -> 4-9	7
 9. Cincinnati      5-7*    v CHI	WIN  -> 6-7	13
10. Arizona         5-7     v TEN	LOSS -> 5-8	8
11. NY Jets         5-7     @ DEN	LOSS?-> 5-8	9/10
12. Washington      5-7     @ LAC	LOSS -> 5-8	11
13. Miami           5-7     v NWE	LOSS -> 5-8	12
14. LA Chargers     6-6     v WAS	WIN  -> 7-6	15
15. Dallas          6-6     @ NYG	WIN  -> 7-6	16
16. Oakland         6-6     @ KAN	LOSS?-> 6-7	14
17. Detroit         6-6     @ TAM	WIN  -> 7-6	17
18. Buffalo         6-6     v IND	WIN  -> 7-6	18
19. Green Bay       6-6     @ CLE	WIN  -> 7-6	19
20. Atlanta         7-5     v NOR	LOSS -> 7-6	20

* Assuming Bengals lose to Pittsburgh
Games marked with a "?" mean I'm unsure if it will break that way or not.

Houston and the NY Jets are marked 9/10 because they are very close in terms of opponents's winning percentage.
They could rank either way after week 14 ends.

 

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17 minutes ago, Woz said:

11th, and we'll be 12th assuming the Steelers dispatch the Bengals tomorrow. 


                    REC     WK 14	PROJ		NEW POS
 1. Cleveland       0-12    v GRB	LOSS -> 0-13	1
 2. NY Giants       2-10    v DAL	LOSS -> 2-11	2
 3. San Francisco   2-10    @ HOU	LOSS -> 2-11	3
 4. Denver          3-9     v NYJ	WIN? -> 4-9	6
 5. Indianapolis    3-9     @ BUF	LOSS -> 3-10	4
 6. Chicago         3-9     @ CIN	LOSS -> 3-10	5
 7. Houston         4-8     v SFO	WIN  -> 5-8	9/10
 8. Tampa Bay       4-8     v DET	LOSS -> 4-9	7
 9. Cincinnati      5-7*    v CHI	WIN  -> 6-7	13
10. Arizona         5-7     v TEN	LOSS -> 5-8	8
11. NY Jets         5-7     @ DEN	LOSS?-> 5-8	9/10
12. Washington      5-7     @ LAC	LOSS -> 5-8	11
13. Miami           5-7     v NWE	LOSS -> 5-8	12
14. LA Chargers     6-6     v WAS	WIN  -> 7-6	15
15. Dallas          6-6     @ NYG	WIN  -> 7-6	16
16. Oakland         6-6     @ KAN	LOSS?-> 6-7	14
17. Detroit         6-6     @ TAM	WIN  -> 7-6	17
18. Buffalo         6-6     v IND	WIN  -> 7-6	18
19. Green Bay       6-6     @ CLE	WIN  -> 7-6	19
20. Atlanta         7-5     v NOR	LOSS -> 7-6	20

* Assuming Bengals lose to Pittsburgh
Games marked with a "?" mean I'm unsure if it will break that way or not.

Houston and the NY Jets are marked 9/10 because they are very close in terms of opponents's winning percentage.
They could rank either way after week 14 ends.

 

Yup. The website I use updates in real time. It has us at 11th now.

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16 hours ago, Dashing202 said:

 I can't make a list yet but to me if Kirk cousins leave I'd be fine if they signed Teddy Bridgewater , he's healthy now and he's only 25.

he be cheap to And shown he can be good .

i see Sheldon Richardson on the list to we targeted him. 

There is only one veteran who is a better play then Kirk and that’s brees. Brees will be back or retire. If we don’t bring Kirk back we have to draft a QB because that’s the only way the FO could keep butts In the seats if we started 2 and 4! We start 2 and 4 or worse with a veteran if we thought the RG supporters were hard to deal with after every bad pass from any other QB imagine what this would be!!! Especially if Kirk left and was winning!!!! Don’t get me wrong if Kirk leaves I hope he goes 19 and 0 because then my friend this team might get exactally what it needs!!! A competent rebuild where you hire a real GM then he picks his coach and they work on the staff and they infuse the roster with the talent they want while they keep a banner of Kirk holding a 19-0 framed pictures outside there office to remind Snyder why he need to stay the heck away!!!!

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On 12/2/2017 at 3:09 PM, A TRAIN 89 said:

Pryor will want more money than we're willing to give him. No shot he stays.

DJ Moore is actually way higher rated than I initially expected. Kiper has him as his #2 rated WR in this upcoming draft.

Two things with Pryor:

1. I don’t think Jay will want him back, even if it’s a cheap deal. It’s almost a given Jay will want Ryan Grant re-signed (36 recs & 4 TDs through 12 games) as the Redskins’ 4th and sometimes 5th receiving option throughout the year.

2. I think Pryor greatly hurt his value this season and will have to take a one year prove it deal for a few million at most.

As for wr, if Courtland Sutton, James Washington, Calvin Ridley, Deontay Burnett, Christian Kirk or DJ Moore are available and they are the BPA we should take them. We need to take the BPA in the positions of DL, ILB, RB or WR in round 1. Whomever is BPA we should take, and then we should look to fill one of those other needs in rounds 2-4 and then take just BPA in rounds 5-7.

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22 hours ago, Dashing202 said:

lol

Alex smith been alright this season. He's on his way to finishing 30 touchdowns with barley 6 ints .

 

we already have a qb on our roster who is 4 years younger than Smith and putting up similar stats with most of his weapons and starting OL being hurt parts of the year. Alex Smith has been lucky to have a great running game and have his playmakers and OL stay health. He hasn't had to deal with 22 OL combinations, no running game and his top 3 offensive passing weapons and starting running back dealing with injuries. And, despite all that, Kirk is still putting up great numbers.

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On 12/2/2017 at 2:56 PM, lavar703 said:

I've basically narrowed down my wants for our first round pick:

Daron Payne

Vita Vea

Quenton Nelson

It just so happens that our needs line up with the best players most likely to be available when we pick. 

As far as second rounder goes, I've sort of narrowed that down as well.

Kerryon Johnson

Christian Kirk

Baker Mayfield/Josh Allen-This is solely based on Kirk leaving. If Kirk stays then this would be changed to best available OG/RB/C/ILB. 

I think Kirk is going to leave

I agree with Lavar on Quenton Nelson or Daron Payne. 

2nd round 

Clayton Thorson. (Which I’ve said previously)

3rd round

Ross Pierschbacker OG/Ala if we draft Daron Payne

Lowell Lutuleilei DT/Utah if we draft Quenton Nelson OG/ND

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ARTMONK HOF said:

I agree with Lavar on Quenton Nelson or Daron Payne. 

2nd round 

Clayton Thorson. (Which I’ve said previously)

3rd round

Ross Pierschbacker OG/Ala if we draft Daron Payne

Lowell Lutuleilei DT/Utah if we draft Quenton Nelson OG/ND

Most recent DraftTek mock:

  1. DL3T Christian Wilkins, Clemson (picking 15th, +7 value)
  2. QB Clayton Thorson, Northwestern (picking 47th, +3 value)
  3. ILB Azeem Victor, Washington (picking 79th, +5 value)
  4. RB Nick Chubb, Georgia (picking 111th, +27 value)

If Kirk has left (which I feel is more likely than not), I would be on board with this draft. Nice solid value across the board, while filling important needs. Only place I might quibble is in the 3rd, when we could look to getting a guard (Martez Ivey and Isaiah Wynn go off the board four (to Ravens) and six (to Chiefs) picks after us).

For the record, the same mock has Darnold (3 to Giants), Rosen (6 to Broncos), Jackson (7 to Dolphins), and Rudolph (9 to Jets) before we pick with Rosen going 29th to the Steelers before we get our second pick.

Yes, Jackson at 7 is high and their analyst admits as much but states "the more certain I become that the Dolphins can't pass on the most explosive offensive weapon in the draft. Like it or not Lamar Jackson is that man." Of course, he also goes on to say this:

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If Lamar maintains his league averages in the bowl game, he would end the season as the ACC's leading rusher and passer, which would be the first time in the history of the ACC. Don't forget, a man named Mick Vick played in the ACC and Vick never accomplished the feats Lamar Jackson has. 

Which is complete bollocks since VT was in the Big East when Vick was playing. He also misspelled "Mike" so take his thoughts for what they're worth.

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