vikingsrule Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: No deal without their 1st next year. QBOTFs are expensive. Not if you’re openly trying to trade down. Unless it’s a top 10 pick, why should the trading team pay a premium just because they want a QB. Anything outside the top 10 for a QB is usually a crap shoot anyway so I don’t think you’re going to see this actually happen. The Vikes certainly didn’t pay a premium for Teddy when they moved up, granted that was six years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, perrynoid said: But wouldn't they be trading up to get past NE and NO? Aren't those the teams that would be anxious to draft Love? Who else in front of them between picks 25 and 34 would draft a QB? I don’t see either NE or NO taking Love, but those trades work for pick 22 as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Not if you’re openly trying to trade down. Unless it’s a top 10 pick, why should the trading team pay a premium just because they want a QB. Anything outside the top 10 for a QB is usually a crap shoot anyway so I don’t think you’re going to see this actually happen. The Vikes certainly didn’t pay a premium for Teddy when they moved up, granted that was six years ago. Both KC and Houston gave up future 1st round picks to move up, and neither of the teams moving down we moving out of the 1st round. It cost the Jets three 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots with Indianapolis. Baltimore gave up a future 2nd in the trade up to get Lamar Jackson. No one traded up in the 1st for a QB last year. But the cost of moving up for a QB is expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: No deal without their 1st next year. QBOTFs are expensive. Wasn’t the case for either Teddy or Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Just now, RpMc said: Wasn’t the case for either Teddy or Lamar. Lamar still garnered an additional 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Lamar still garnered an additional 2nd. The Ravens were moving up from the 50s, traded an additional 4th for 32 and a 4th Eagles gave up: 32 and 132 - 630 points Ravens gave up 52/125/2020 2nd - 697 points ——— roughly the same difference in points as the two trades I put together from Indy and LAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: Both KC and Houston gave up future 1st round picks to move up, and neither of the teams moving down we moving out of the 1st round. It cost the Jets three 2nd round picks to move up 3 spots with Indianapolis. Baltimore gave up a future 2nd in the trade up to get Lamar Jackson. No one traded up in the 1st for a QB last year. But the cost of moving up for a QB is expensive. Weren’t KC and Houston moving up to the top 10 where picks will usually hold a higher value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Weren’t KC and Houston moving up to the top 10 where picks will usually hold a higher value. KC moved to 10 from 27. Houston went from 25 to 12. Next year’s 1st may be a little steep, but I’m not accepting an extra 3rd as the sole compensation. I’d ask for no less than an additional 2nd. So, with Indianapolis, that would either mean both 2020 2nds, or a 2nd in 2020 and a 2nd in 2021. Of its a 2nd in 2021, I also want a 3rd in 2020. Edited April 22, 2020 by SemperFeist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, perrynoid said: I think I already did the math in another thread, but my brain is shrinking rapidly so here is the math again: Indy trades 34, 44, 75 and 197 (560 + 460 + 215 + 11.4 = 1246.4) for Minnesota's 22, 58 and 89 (780 + 320 + 145 = 1245). Would you do that trade? I wouldn't mind that at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Paul Allen this morning going through the mock drafts going around. In: Jeff Gladney Out: Jaylon Johnson/AJ Epenesa talked about others being possibilities but these were the “big opinions” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly_iavikefn Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I'm leaning more and more towards neglecting WR in the first round and addressing the defensive backfield and the offensive line instead. I'm hoping for at least one trade down from either pick, acquiring an additional 2nd or 3rd rounder (or both), which would give them some additional ammunition to move up in the second round for one of the WRs that falls out of the first day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, SteelKing728 said: I could see a couple teams looking to trade up, especially Indy if they covet Jordan Love. In other news, water is wet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: In other news, water is wet. Back under your rock, Patrick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: No deal without their 1st next year. QBOTFs are expensive. Good luck getting a team to cough up their '21 FRP with Trevor Lawrence likely going to be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 The "QB" premium for trading up for one, is more so if its a top 5 pick Otherwise, moving up for a QB, in the 1st round #10-32th cost a lot (but that is because the value of the higher 1st round picks compared to lower 1st round picks). I don't foresee some additional QB premium (outside of regular trade value chart value) if trading down from a #22/#25 (to lower 1st round pick or high 2nds) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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