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Mortal Kombat Mafia: TOWN WINS. KSJ/Counselor lose. Malf is still crying.


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13 hours ago, Blue said:

@bigbadbuff @bcb1213 @HoboRocket @MWil23 @Whicker

Two of you are scum. What have you got to say in your defense?

 

20 hours ago, Whicker said:

You know what. Forget I asked. I really don’t care. I know the logic that brought me to this conclusion and it’s sound. If others don’t want to explicitly refute me then I’ll just continue like I’m not even flowing through ink

 

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I want to see what @bigbadbuff flips as, but I don't know what Daboyle's role would be as scum other than framer. He didn't protect Josh from a kill and he wouldn't have RBed/redirected his own teammate. We already had a non-Town flip as Watcher, so I don't think it's that.

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1 hour ago, Blue said:

KSJ is effectively scum. He's not going to help Town win unless he's forced to, and he'll almost certainly vote with Pickle in a LyLo situation.

You sure are hell bent on focusing on an Indy late game. That’s not civ like. 

You obviously don’t know the dynamics between pickle and myself. 

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Just now, kingseanjohn said:

You sure are hell bent on focusing on an Indy late game. That’s not civ like. 

You obviously don’t know the dynamics between pickle and myself. 

So you do need to survive to the end.

We've got a pair of claimed Vig roles running around, if you don't want them to make themselves useful, I suggest you start helping Town win the game as quickly as possible.

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2 minutes ago, bcb1213 said:

Can you please explain to the class how you knew I targeted Josh before that was revealed in thread then 

Pretty sure the same way I did

Just now, Whicker said:

Pickle, Buff, Orca, Hobo

oh ffs

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2 hours ago, Blue said:
  1. Dome - Town
  2. Pickle - Shang Tsung, Scum
  3. Daboyle - Liu Kang, Town
  4. Orca -
  5. Buff - Mileena?, Scum
  6. KSJ - Scorpion, Indy
  7. Swoosh/Bcb - Jax, Town
  8. Blue - Nightwolf, Town
  9. Rags - Town
  10. Mwil - Shao Khan, Town
  11. Malf/Whicker - Kano
  12. Hobo - Noob Saibot
  13. UNT - Rain, Town

Updated list. I doubt scum have two kills, which means bcb claiming the kill on Josh makes him Town. Bcb evidently did not choose Josh as his target, which means Mwil did redirect him to Josh, which I don't see Mwil doing as that robs scum of (at the very least) another Day phase of us lynching someone and buying scum another Night to kill whoever they want. I'm clearing both bcb and Mwil on that basis.

If we take Mwil as Town, then the kill mechanic for scum is almost certainly that they choose the flavor of their kills. This is especially lol-worthy because it means Matts doesn't have to write any of the writeup himself, which is a level of moderator laziness I can respect wholeheartedly. Josh turning up as a Strongman role supports that theory, as I don't believe Swag wouldn't have protected Whicker on N2 and scum didn't seem to think Whicker would be protected anyways.

The Whickertron/Hobo/Touch dynamic is gonna get weird. I'm pretty convinced it's one of those three, but it's not a clean case on any of them.

It seems unlikely Malf would gambit on D2 to get Daboyle lynched, but scum may have figured that with a
Strongman role and the Watcher dead, they could take force a CC out of the real Cop, eliminate him immediately, and get away with a Paranoid/Insane/Random Cop claim. Kano fits with what I think the scum theme is, too. This is probably our safest lynch option for tomorrow because apart from it being a risky play and Kano used as the kill flavor on N2, there isn't much to suggest there are any unreliable Town roles in this game or any reason to believe Whickertron is Town.

Hobo is claiming Tabula Rasa with a kill. I sort of buy the claim, as that would hit the typical 33% non-Town ratio at the start of the game and potentially give Mafia "five" members. Noob isn't a character typically associated with Shang Tsung directly, but we're assuming Hobo is telling the truth about his character and role. There's a lot being taken on faith here and I don't like doing that. We can wait a Day to kill him though if he makes a kill tonight, based on his claim.

Touch is a bit out there and I'm definitely tinfoiling at this point, but if neither Hobo or Whicker pops scum, we have to reevaluate our options. Scum already appear to have a writeup-altering ability; it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they can send fake messages in the thread, too. Scum outing their own numbers and taking a guess on the Indy roles isn't the most brazen of gambles, and it effectively cleared Touch as Town. If we've reached this point without identifying the last scum role, he's the least cleared player left.

If it's not one of those three, either Orca or Daboyle has a great fakeclaim, Ragnarok is a Miller, or Mwil doesn't control where his redirects go and accidentally killed Josh. I will hopefully be dead by that point and no longer have to worry about it.

What about the fact that there are two trackers in the game and one apparently has received no results 

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