sammymvpknight Posted August 3, 2020 Author Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 hours ago, YogiBiz said: Outside the Bucs which non-playoff team is gonna break through. The Colts maybe? But Rivers looked washed. Sooooo Using the system that I outlined in the OP (the system used by the 2004 NHL)...the Bucs stand the most to gain and the Jaguars stand the most to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 1:18 PM, sammymvpknight said: Using the system that I outlined in the OP (the system used by the 2004 NHL)...the Bucs stand the most to gain and the Jaguars stand the most to lose. That sounds about right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Whichever way results in Philly getting Micah Parsons, Hamsah Nasirildeen, Caleb Farley, and Shi Smith should be the way. Oh, and Chazz Surratt too. Everyone else should be free to sign with whichever team they want as free agents. Edited August 10, 2020 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Anything other than a completely random draw would be unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 3:56 AM, Killashaw said: Anything other than a completely random draw would be unfair. I'd be weary about that. The NHL screwed up their draft lottery and I'd hate to see the NFL doing the same. The fact Alexis Lafrenière could have landed in a Pittsburgh, Toronto, Edmonton, etc would have been a mess for so many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 5:56 AM, Killashaw said: Anything other than a completely random draw would be unfair. KC having the same chance at a #1 pick as JAX is fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 5:56 AM, Killashaw said: Anything other than a completely random draw would be unfair. 2 hours ago, Tetsujin said: KC having the same chance at a #1 pick as JAX is fair? IMO, you randomize it completely, within 3 ranges. 1-10 from 2020 are randomized. 11-20 Are randomized, and 21-32 are randomized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Danger said: IMO, you randomize it completely, within 3 ranges. 1-10 from 2020 are randomized. 11-20 Are randomized, and 21-32 are randomized. That's fine, or some lotto style with odds based on last year's finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 1:56 AM, DirtyDez said: Geographical order starting in Southwest Ohio. fixt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Tetsujin said: KC having the same chance at a #1 pick as JAX is fair? Yes, because normally the draft order is based on the season ranking. If there's no season, you can't just say let's use the season before for any kind of measurement (whether that's 1-10 11-20 21-32 in draws, or exact the same order as 2020). You should not get punished because you were good in 2020. Maybe KC would go 1-16 in the new season, you just don't know. No season = Not 1 objective measurement for the draft order = completely random. That's just the only way that's fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 18 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: I'd be weary about that. The NHL screwed up their draft lottery and I'd hate to see the NFL doing the same. The fact Alexis Lafrenière could have landed in a Pittsburgh, Toronto, Edmonton, etc would have been a mess for so many reasons. I get the concerns, but it's just an unique situation and would only be for one year. You can't award a tanking team with 2x a top pick. And you can't punish a team that went all out last season and now turns into rebuild mode to give them a ****ty pick again, while there team now is probably bottom 16 instead of top 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Killashaw said: No season = Not 1 objective measurement for the draft order = completely random. That's just the only way that's fair. You use the last time they actually played games as one tool of measurement, the 2019 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killashaw Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Tetsujin said: You use the last time they actually played games as one tool of measurement, the 2019 season. You have already used that one tool. If you wanna use a tool you have already used, you have to do a draw to decide which tool you're gonna use twice. So put in 2010 till 2019 in a bowl, draw and the draft order from the year that's picked is the draft order. Otherwise, you can't just use a tool twice, since it's simply not fair to give teams a top pick twice, just bc they were bad 2 years ago. Edited August 12, 2020 by Killashaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Killashaw said: You have already used that one tool. If you wanna use a tool you have already used, you have to do a draw to decide which tool you're gonna use twice. So put in 2010 till 2019 in a bowl, draw and the draft order from the year that's picked is the draft order. Otherwise, you can't just use a tool twice, since it's simply not fair to give teams a top pick twice, just bc they were bad 2 years ago. Or since it has a chance of giving the Bills the #32 overall pick. In reality, if I'm the NFL, I'm splitting it into the three proposed groups: 1-10, 11-20, and 21-32. Then I'm not only randomizing the teams within their groups, I'm randomizing that draft order EACH round. Another variation would be to randomize within those groups and then offer a snake draft. That way, teams that finished really poorly in 2019 and are likely to be not good in 2020 will still get their premium player, but teams that barely made the playoffs, like the Bills and Texans, will be able to pick a player twice before the - let's say Bengals - get a chance at another player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Killashaw said: You have already used that one tool. If you wanna use a tool you have already used, you have to do a draw to decide which tool you're gonna use twice. So put in 2010 till 2019 in a bowl, draw and the draft order from the year that's picked is the draft order. You'd use the 2020 records as a basis for some type a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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