LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, bruceb said: Of course they did. But Dee Haslam is big into player behavioral rehabilitation. Don't be so sure that is not a part of the puzzle. 2 minutes ago, bruceb said: I mean, they have to have discussed it with and been assured that Watson was all in, don't you think? And I’m 100% certain he said yes if he was asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: And I’m 100% certain he said yes if he was asked. Dee Haslam's involvement is real. Laugh it off if it makes you feel good. I ask people questions with my antennae tuned to their veracity in answering regularly. Again, laugh it off it makes you feel good but I have to believe that Berry, et al., have experience in that, too. Thanks for the gif compilation, btw.😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2ThaIzzo Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 With the trade going down, does this potentially change Berry's typical draft approach to focus on high caliber players who are a bit younger in age? Jalen Tolbert, for example, would typically not be a highly sought after target because he is 23 years old. Not saying we would have him high regardless, but given the confidence for winning immediately with Watson, does that change how we approach things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, H2ThaIzzo said: With the trade going down, does this potentially change Berry's typical draft approach to focus on high caliber players who are a bit younger in age? Jalen Tolbert, for example, would typically not be a highly sought after target because he is 23 years old. Not saying we would have him high regardless, but given the confidence for winning immediately with Watson, does that change how we approach things? Possibly. Makes sense, but he hasn’t done that yet. I think he might trade up if one of those top receivers falls. Wilson London Burks Olave Williams If one of them make it to the bottom of the first I could see a trade up to secure that fifth year option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2ThaIzzo Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, brownie man said: Possibly. Makes sense, but he hasn’t done that yet. I think he might trade up if one of those top receivers falls. Wilson London Burks Olave Williams If one of them make it to the bottom of the first I could see a trade up to secure that fifth year option It would definitely be nice to still come away with one of those guys. I'd absolutely love Burks. I was thinking along the lines of a D'Marco Jackson type guy that absolutely performed on the football field for for his college career, but at 23.5 years wouldn't normally be someone we would target. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, H2ThaIzzo said: It would definitely be nice to still come away with one of those guys. I'd absolutely love Burks. I was thinking along the lines of a D'Marco Jackson type guy that absolutely performed on the football field for for his college career, but at 23.5 years wouldn't normally be someone we would target. Burks is who I have been wanting to come away from this draft with all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, H2ThaIzzo said: It would definitely be nice to still come away with one of those guys. I'd absolutely love Burks. I was thinking along the lines of a D'Marco Jackson type guy that absolutely performed on the football field for for his college career, but at 23.5 years wouldn't normally be someone we would target. We've still got a 2nd 2 3rds and 2 4ths Thats crazy ammo for Berry PLUS whatever we get for Baker Thats bout to get crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Based on the trade value chart, if we traded a 2nd and both 3rds we could go all the way up to Arizona in the 1st. They pick 23. I wonder if we just copy the Rams strategy regarding draft picks: Win now and trade for more established players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Based on the trade value chart, if we traded a 2nd and both 3rds we could go all the way up to Arizona in the 1st. They pick 23. I wonder if we just copy the Rams strategy regarding draft picks: Win now and trade for more established players. I think this was an aberration. We didn’t trade our picks for older players before and we only did so for a 26 year old super star qb. Berry isn’t trading for older players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Cooper had 865 yards that is it while being thrown to be dak. Are starting wr core right now has 1400 yards. If that is not the 30th it is close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Cooper had 865 yards that is it while being thrown to be dak. You love finding one specific stat and just applying the hell out of it without context lol. Cooper had 865 yards. Yes. He also did that on 104 targets. Jarvis, who by your standard is better than Carter, Owens, etc as you’ve stated dozens of times, had just 17 less targets but 300 less yards and 6 less touchdowns. So it would seem Amari is still pretty good even with 800 something yards. 13 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Are starting wr core right now has 1400 yards. If that is not the 30th it is close. Hopefully some teams start some rookies then I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) If we keep the picks as it stands....I think they should go WR in the 2nd, and DE, DT with both 3rds. There should be a starting caliber WR in the 2nd Round (tons of depth in this draft) Bell or Dotson come to mind from the Big 10...wouldn't it be amazing if Jameson Williams fell because of the injury? There should be a rotational Edge/DE available in the 3rd. (hopefully we re-sign Clowney to start) Nik Bontto, Myjai Sanders, Josh Paschal are dudes I'm looking at....maybe Cameron Thomas slips to here? There should be someone to clog up the Middle at DT with our other 3rd Travis Jones out of Uconn...John Ridgeway from Arkansas....Neil Farrell/LSU..... Maybe we get lucky, and 2 out of these 3 picks turn out to be really good!!!!! Edited March 19, 2022 by big poppa pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You love finding one specific stat and just applying the hell out of it without context lol. Cooper had 865 yards. Yes. He also did that on 104 targets. Jarvis, who by your standard is better than Carter, Owens, etc as you’ve stated dozens of times, had just 17 less targets but 300 less yards and 6 less touchdowns. So it would seem Amari is still pretty good even with 800 something yards. Hopefully some teams start some rookies then I suppose. Excelent post How have you ben? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: You love finding one specific stat and just applying the hell out of it without context lol. Cooper had 865 yards. Yes. He also did that on 104 targets. Jarvis, who by your standard is better than Carter, Owens, etc as you’ve stated dozens of times, had just 17 less targets but 300 less yards and 6 less touchdowns. So it would seem Amari is still pretty good even with 800 something yards. Hopefully some teams start some rookies then I suppose. I saw that if you take 3 years of cooper and 3 years of dpj who we are starting right now we are horrible. There is still the Mayfield trade plus maybe a trade up if you do this there is 0 depth. Let's take the best case scenario Mayfield gets traded to New Orleans for there 1st we draft Jameson he may not play a down till November that means you double cooper for 2 months And make Dpj beat you while Chubb Faces 8 man fronts. Now who are drafting on the defensive line and linebacking core To stop the run Edited March 19, 2022 by mtmmike Stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, mtmmike said: I saw that if you take 3 years of cooper and 3 years of dpj who we are starting right now we are horrible. There is still the Mayfield trade plus maybe a trade up if you do this there is 0 depth. Let's take the best case scenario Mayfield gets traded to New Orleans for there 1st we draft Jameson he may not play a down till November that means you double cooper for 2 months And make Dpj beat you while Chubb Faces 8 man fronts. Now who are drafting on the defensive line and linebacking core To stop the run Or they sign Will Fuller like everyone expects them too. Or they trade for another receiver. Or they draft a guy who can play week one. If we’re playing the whole what if game, there’s a lot of ways we can go with this. Besides, DPJ is 2-0 vs all pro and rookie of the year Jamar Chase. So are Schwartz and Felton. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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