College Football and Draft Discussion 2024

[Kiwibrown]

On 12/27/2020 at 2:14 AM, MWil23 said:

Some schools also do better jobs at producing talent at some positions due to scheme and coaching. For example, with Coombs and Johnson, I love OSU DB and DL. With Saban, I love Alabama interior DL, LB, and S. With Clemson, it’s hard to go wrong with a quarterback (Lawrence and Watson) or wide receiver.

I also generally believe in Bama and OSU OL, LSU defensive players, Georgia RB, Iowa/Wisconsin OL, Iowa and Stanford TE, etc.

LSU produces Tarzan running backs that play like Jane. Fournette, D Guise. 

[candyman93]

38 minutes ago, Kiwibrown said:

LSU produces Tarzan running backs that play like Jane. Fournette, D Guise. 

Clyde Edwards Hellaire is playing well, but he has Mahomes.

[Kiwibrown]

3 minutes ago, candyman93 said:

Clyde Edwards Hellaire is playing well, but he has Mahomes.

Agreed, but he isnt a 240 power back. Like the other two.

[buno67]

8 hours ago, QBIso said:

How about who cares where these kids go to school? Pick the best guys. 

well schools matter because obviously some schools produce better talent than others.

You want a corner from UCLA or tOSU?

You want a LB from Penn St or Texas?

You want a LT From Wisconsin or Florida?

Edited December 29, 2020 by buno67

[QBIso]

48 minutes ago, buno67 said:

well schools matter because obviously some schools produce better talent than others.

You want a corner from UCLA or tOSU?

You want a LB from Penn St or Texas?

You want a LT From Wisconsin or Florida?

It depends lol. I don’t care where a player comes from. Gotta scout them based on their ability, not their school. I could care less if a dude comes from “DB U” or “LB U.” That means less than nothing to me. Who is the best guy?

[candyman93]

47 minutes ago, QBIso said:

It depends lol. I don’t care where a player comes from. Gotta scout them based on their ability, not their school. I could care less if a dude comes from “DB U” or “LB U.” That means less than nothing to me. Who is the best guy?

You’re right, they don’t draft guys specifically because of the name of their helmet. They draft a guy based on the name on the helmet of the guy across from him.
 

How do you perform against the best of the best?

[candyman93]

I’m more interested in your guys thoughts on the free agency.

 

Free Agency-

Keep: Sheldon Richardson, Jamie Gillan, Adrian Clayborn, OBJ

Let walk: BJ Goodson, Larry Ogunjobi, Karl Joseph, Andrew Sendejo, Kevin Johnson

Resign: Olivier Vernon, Rashard Higgins, Terrance Mitchell

Sign: Matt Milano from Buffalo

Release: Cody Parkey, David Njoku

 

 

 

Draft-

1. Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri: Him and Milano fix our LB core immediately.

2. Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia: Gives us a more dependable 2nd CB.

3. Richard Lecounte, S, Georgia: Gives us depth behind Ronnie Harrison.

3. Israel Mukuamu, CB, South Carolina: Adds more depth to the secondary.

4. Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, Florida State: Another massive body for the secondary.

4. Dimitri Moore, LB, Vanderbilt: Depth at LB.

5. Cade York, K, LSU: Best kicker in college football.

6. Pookah Williams, RB, Kansas: Will provide depth and challenge D’ernest.

7. Big Kat Bryant, DE, Auburn: Depth at DE.

[NateDawg]

3 hours ago, candyman93 said:

7. Big Kat Bryant, DE, Auburn: Depth at DE.

Yes. If we are going to draft a seventh round guy who probably won’t make the team anyways, I want this guy. I know nothing about him except his name now. 

[Dawgpoun8017]

6 hours ago, candyman93 said:

I’m more interested in your guys thoughts on the free agency.

 

Free Agency-

Keep: Sheldon Richardson, Jamie Gillan, Adrian Clayborn, OBJ

Let walk: BJ Goodson, Larry Ogunjobi, Karl Joseph, Andrew Sendejo, Kevin Johnson

Resign: Olivier Vernon, Rashard Higgins, Terrance Mitchell

Sign: Matt Milano from Buffalo

Release: Cody Parkey, David Njoku

 

 

 

Draft-

1. Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri: Him and Milano fix our LB core immediately.

2. Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia: Gives us a more dependable 2nd CB.

3. Richard Lecounte, S, Georgia: Gives us depth behind Ronnie Harrison.

3. Israel Mukuamu, CB, South Carolina: Adds more depth to the secondary.

4. Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, Florida State: Another massive body for the secondary.

4. Dimitri Moore, LB, Vanderbilt: Depth at LB.

5. Cade York, K, LSU: Best kicker in college football.

6. Pookah Williams, RB, Kansas: Will provide depth and challenge D’ernest.

7. Big Kat Bryant, DE, Auburn: Depth at DE.

I like it minus Matt Milano , tends to have trouble tackling 

[QBIso]

FA:
Re-Sign Terrence Mitchell & Rashard Higgins
Sign Matt Milano (SLB) & Denzel Perryman (MLB) & Ronald Blair (DE)

 

#25-Shaun Wade CB OSU
2nd-Jaelan Phillips DE Miami Fl
3rd-Paris Ford SS Pittsburgh
3rd-Jalen Twyman DT Pittsburgh
4th-Tylan Wallace WR Oklahoma State
4th-Caden Sterns FS Texas
5th-Ventrell Miller WLB Florida
6th-Jose Borregales K Miami Fl. 
7th-Lorenzo Neal DT Purdue

 

Defense fixed. 

LE: Phillips/Blair. 
DT: Billings/Twyman/Neal/Elliot. 
RE: Garrett/Weaver. 
WLB: Miller/Wilson
MLB: Perryman/Phillips
SLB: Milano/Takitaki. 
CB: Ward/Wade/Greedy/$Mitch/Thomas/Green. 
FS: Delpit/Kazee/Sterns
SS: Ford/Harrison/Redwine

*Ford & Harrison can play nickel linebacker. 
*Kazee can play in the true nickel role.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

I can’t see any reason to move on from Goodson, he’s been our best linebacker all season and it’s not particularly close.

I get he’s not a great starter, but I can’t see how we improve the LBers that much that there isn’t a role for him next year.

[MWil23]

18 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

I can’t see any reason to move on from Goodson, he’s been our best linebacker all season and it’s not particularly close.

I get he’s not a great starter, but I can’t see how we improve the LBers that much that there isn’t a role for him next year.

I can’t believe that I’m saying this, but Takitaki is turning into a solid rotational guy as well. We still need a true MLB/WLB, but if we are able to acquire that guy and another via the draft and/or free agency, you have a decent core of 4 guys. I’d take Goodson back for a year. He’s been at least an average starter.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

4 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

I can’t believe that I’m saying this, but Takitaki is turning into a solid rotational guy as well. We still need a true MLB/WLB, but if we are able to acquire that guy and another via the draft and/or free agency, you have a decent core of 4 guys. I’d take Goodson back for a year. He’s been at least an average starter.

Yeah he has.  He and Phillips aren’t going anywhere.  I’d keep Goodson too.

Bring in a stud and another solid vet and bump those guys down the rotation a bit. Takitaki is a 2 down guy and Phillips is 100% unproven.  I don’t want to rely on those two as starters.

Our starters should be depth and our depth should be selling insurance.

[MWil23]

Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

Yeah he has.  He and Phillips aren’t going anywhere.  I’d keep Goodson too.

Bring in a stud and another solid vet and bump those guys down the rotation a bit. Takitaki is a 2 down guy and Phillips is 100% unproven.  I don’t want to rely on those two as starters.

Our starters should be depth and our depth should be selling insurance.

Phillips isn’t going anywhere, nor should he, but I think he’s terrible. He’s stiff an unathletic. I like Takitaki as your 2 down Sam, Goodson as your 2 down Mike, and then we need a hybrid WLB/SS guy and/or a 3 down off ball freak, plus another + guy on obvious passing and matchup situations. Throw in another S even if Delpit comes back with Harrison for depth and a 3 safety look, and another CB for opposite Ward and nickel situations, and I’m optimistic about where this team could be in a year defensively. Another edge guy is a must too with Vernon likely gone due to money unfortunately.

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

5 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Phillips isn’t going anywhere, nor should he, but I think he’s terrible. He’s stiff an unathletic.

To be fair, we all said the same thing about Takitaki last year.

I don’t think it’s crazy to assume a decent progression year one to year two with better back end talent, a second year in the system and hopefully a regular training camp and preseason.

This is why you don’t depend on rookies.