VigilantZombie Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blue said: The RBs are not flexed up as receivers. If anything, they're flexed up like tight ends, except they're off the line of scrimmage to avoid the press. Example: For this game, Mixon is clearly lined up at what they call the FB (clear if for no other reason than I listed two SB positions and one RB). I'll be sure to clarify in the future if that's an issue for people, though. Pass plays out of this formation are not dissimilar from the concepts used in the Shanahan/LaFleur offenses. For instance, take this pass play where the right slotback is used on a wheel route: You'll note the motion by the other slot back pre snap, as well as the play action off the fake handoff to the fullback. The goal is to give the defense three potential ball carriers to worry about on each play, on top of multiple potential pass catchers if the quarterback keeps. The whole point of my gameplan is that no one player is expected to carry the offense and instead rely on scheme to get guys open. I can't tell you the number of times Aaron Jones has gotten open off a wheel route just like this, so I strongly disagree that the offense can't be high scoring while utilizing the backs like this. Regarding the specific backs, White has 169 catches and 1464 yards over his last 33 games, so I think he can catch the ball just fine. Murray is here for 12 snaps spelling Mixon, and he was explicitly not named as one of the slotbacks. I don't know if you took "swapping out running backs and receivers frequently" to mean they're all lining up at slotback and receiver, but I guess that might have been confusing and it was not my intention. TEs, WRs okay I meant the same thing. I know what it is and I know what coaches use similar tactics. That doesn't mean your WRs are good enough to succeed in it. As for James' stats over rhe last 33 games, you'll also have to consider the team he played for and that they've had more WR success for that team than your BDL roster is currently having. Edited October 8, 2020 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, wwhickok said: TEs, WRs okay I meant the same thing. I know what it is and I know what coaches use similar tactics. That doesn't mean your WRs are good enough to succeed in it. It's not the same thing at all. You can knock Cooks for lack of production all you want, but if you really believe that Robert Woods isn't good, I can't help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Blue said: It's not the same thing at all. You can knock Cooks for lack of production all you want, but if you really believe that Robert Woods isn't good, I can't help you. What I'm saying is I get they're flexed up into "WR" spots. I literally mentioned to the Wishbone, which should've told you I was simply replacing TE with WR. My mistake on word usage but I was literally describing the same concept in my head. I never said Woods wasn't good. I said he hasn't been a big impact this year and he hasnt. Through 4 games he has just over 200 yards, most of that coming in weeks 1 and 3, and 1 TD. Cobb has similar statics, Tate has been relatively horrible and Cooks.... well he looked cooked. It's just facts bro. Edited October 8, 2020 by wwhickok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: What I'm saying is I get they're flexed up into "WR" spots. I literally mentioned to the Wishbone, which should've told you I was simply replacing TE with WR. My mistake on word usage but I was literally describing the same concept in my head. I never said Woods wasn't good. I said he hasn't been a big impact this year and he hasnt. Through 4 games he has just over 200 yards, most of that coming in weeks 1 and 3, and 1 TD. Cobb has similar statics, Tate has been relatively horrible and Cooks.... well he looked cooked. It's just facts bro. They're not flexed into WR spots. Like, that's just not the case. They're lined up on the outside shoulders of the tackles and off the line to avoid the press. I didn't say anything about Cobb or Tate or Cooks. I said Woods. And you know he's better than his numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, PR said: Blue didn't say how he would handle man or zone but it is important for me to say how I would handle zone specifically because I mentioned player names that I wanted to take advantage of. What kind of *** backwards **** is that? Are you playing zone literally every down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blue said: They're not flexed into WR spots. Like, that's just not the case. They're lined up on the outside shoulders of the tackles and off the line to avoid the press. I didn't say anything about Cobb or Tate or Cooks. I said Woods. And you know he's better than his numbers. What I should've said was TE spots but In my mind I was talking about the same thing, used fhe wrong verbiage. Not that big a deal. I know Woods has been better than the numbers, I know he is capable of being better than the numbers but I also know he has been consistently mediocre this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 PR gets to just sit back for once lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I like the creativity and effort from Blue this week, thought it was a good game plan. ON the other side, PR did the textbook go after the terrible secondary, which Dak should certainly be able to tear apart. High scoring affair, but the overall talent/depth level disparity is too much to overcome for OKC. Hangry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Dak posts up pretty stats late, but not enough to overcome a late deficit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, bcb1213 said: Are you playing zone literally every down? I'm playing both. He just put out a plan not specifically attacking either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: I like the creativity and effort from Blue this week, thought it was a good game plan. ON the other side, PR did the textbook go after the terrible secondary, which Dak should certainly be able to tear apart. High scoring affair, but the overall talent/depth level disparity is too much to overcome for OKC. Hangry lolwut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blue said: lolwut Sorry, that was unfair. I think I meant to say overwhelmed or thin. Came out wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, RuskieTitan said: Dak posts up pretty stats late, but not enough to overcome a late deficit. This sounds like a summary of the Browns game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, PR said: This sounds like a summary of the Browns game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackcs Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 I don't think this game is enough of a blowout for one team to be the "right" winner but I do think Hungary squeaks by in this one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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