scar988 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I've been kind of frustrated with the Hall of fame recent years. But there are some guys that I'll never understand why they aren't in the Hall of Fame. Of those, Tiki Barber, Warrick Dunn and Steven Jackson all confuse me because they all deserve to be in. When looking at the top 25 guys in yards from scrimmage of all time, they are ranking 15, 20 and 23. 15,000 yards rushing would put you in instantly. 15,000 yards receiving would do the same. But in terms of impact on a game, rushing and receiving are basically the same from an individual's standpoint. Why aren't we weighing the guys that could do both exceptionally just as much as the guys that could do one or the other exceptionally? 1 Jerry Rice + 23,540 1985-2004 3TM 2 Emmitt Smith + 21,579 1990-2004 2TM 3 Walter Payton+ 21,264 1975-1987 chi 4 Frank Gore 19,834 2005-2020 5TM 5 Marshall Faulk+ 19,154 1994-2005 2TM 6 LaDainian Tomlinson+ 18,456 2001-2011 2TM 7 Barry Sanders + 18,190 1989-1998 det 8 Marcus Allen+ 17,654 1982-1997 2TM 9 Larry Fitzgerald 17,487 2004-2020 crd 10 Curtis Martin + 17,430 1995-2005 2TM 11 Adrian Peterson 17,103 2007-2020 5TM 12 Thurman Thomas+ 16,532 1988-2000 2TM 13 Tony Dorsett+ 16,293 1977-1988 2TM 14 Terrell Owens+ 16,185 1996-2010 5TM 15 Tiki Barber 15,632 1997-2006 nyg 16 Edgerrin James+ 15,610 1999-2009 3TM 17 Randy Moss+ 15,451 1998-2012 5TM 18 Eric Dickerson+ 15,396 1983-1993 4TM 19 Isaac Bruce+ 15,347 1994-2009 2TM 20 Warrick Dunn 15,306 1997-2008 2TM 21 Tony Gonzalez+ 15,141 1997-2013 2TM 22 Tim Brown+ 15,124 1988-2004 2TM 23 Steven Jackson 15,121 2004-2015 3TM 24 Steve Smith 15,118 2001-2016 2TM 25 Jerome Bettis+ 15,111 1993-2005 2TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Off top of my head.. John Lynch, Jamal Lewis, Andre Johnson maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Mark Gastineau. 3 time All Pro, 5 Pro Bowls, Defensive Player of the Year. He had 22 sacks in a single season at a time when it wasn't even heard of. It's actually inconceivable that he's not in the Hall of Fame, but it's just proof that the Hall of Fame really is a popularity contest. Granted, nobody liked Mark Gastineau when he played in the NFL. But, he has more than enough statistically to be in the HoF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Tiki I give you. Dunn and Jackson are both HoVG. They would need a kicker to put them in the HoF. Lynch and Gastineau are opposites, so they are worth comparing. Lynch was excellent for a very long time. Gastineau was absolutely dominant for about two and a half years, but merely good most of his career. Neither is HoF worthy IMO, but they are just under the bar. Anyone clearly better should be in. Andre Johnson becomes eligible next year. Some possibilities: Tory Holt Reggie Wayne Kevin Williams Bryant Young Richard Seymour Zach Thomas Patrick Willis Ronde Barber There are a number of players from the 20th century that would bear mention, but Bryant Young is pushing that envelope. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Randy Gradishar and then everybody else. 7x pro bowler, 6x All Pro, Defensive POY, Leader of the Orange Crush defense, never missed a game in 10 year career. It's been 39 years.....Come the eff on NFL Edited December 4, 2020 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Jim Kleinsasser - FB/TE elect him based on his blocking ability alone. He was as blue collar as they come. Chris Walsh - was essentially the Vikings version of Steve Tasker for 9 seasons. Played an entire game with a broken jaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 17 hours ago, onejayhawk said: Tiki I give you. Dunn and Jackson are both HoVG. They would need a kicker to put them in the HoF. Lynch and Gastineau are opposites, so they are worth comparing. Lynch was excellent for a very long time. Gastineau was absolutely dominant for about two and a half years, but merely good most of his career. Neither is HoF worthy IMO, but they are just under the bar. Anyone clearly better should be in. Andre Johnson becomes eligible next year. Some possibilities: Tory Holt Reggie Wayne Kevin Williams Bryant Young Richard Seymour Zach Thomas Patrick Willis Ronde Barber There are a number of players from the 20th century that would bear mention, but Bryant Young is pushing that envelope. J The fact that Torry Holt isn’t in the HOF is a sham. Especially when you consider that Isaac Bruce is already in and — no offense to him, he was also excellent — Torry Holt was better than him. On the same field, at the same time. During his lengthy prime (rookie year of 1999 through 2007), no one had more receiving yards than Holt, and only Marvin Harrison caught more passes. There were only 3 guys within 2000 yards of his yardage total during that 8-year span. Their names were Harrison, Moss, and Owens. Torry Holt was a maestro, it’s laughable that he isn’t alongside those guys in Canton. From your list, I think Kevin Williams and Patrick Willis both get in. They were both almost consensus best in the world at what they did for a period of years (especially Willis), and I think that’s just about the best way to get the committee to pull the trigger. A few of those guys (Thomas, Wayne, Young) feel like classic senior committee picks, as guys who were more appreciated by other players and close followers of the game than the general public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriously27 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, e16bball said: The fact that Torry Holt isn’t in the HOF is a sham. Especially when you consider that Isaac Bruce is already in and — no offense to him, he was also excellent — Torry Holt was better than him. On the same field, at the same time. During his lengthy prime (rookie year of 1999 through 2007), no one had more receiving yards than Holt, and only Marvin Harrison caught more passes. There were only 3 guys within 2000 yards of his yardage total during that 8-year span. Their names were Harrison, Moss, and Owens. Torry Holt was a maestro, it’s laughable that he isn’t alongside those guys in Canton. From your list, I think Kevin Williams and Patrick Willis both get in. They were both almost consensus best in the world at what they did for a period of years (especially Willis), and I think that’s just about the best way to get the committee to pull the trigger. A few of those guys (Thomas, Wayne, Young) feel like classic senior committee picks, as guys who were more appreciated by other players and close followers of the game than the general public. Looking at the voting history the past two years, Thomas nd Wayne will both be in the HOF in the next 5 years. They won't have to wait on the senior. Bryant is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 hours ago, e16bball said: The fact that Torry Holt isn’t in the HOF is a sham. Especially when you consider that Isaac Bruce is already in and — no offense to him, he was also excellent — Torry Holt was better than him. On the same field, at the same time. During his lengthy prime (rookie year of 1999 through 2007), no one had more receiving yards than Holt, and only Marvin Harrison caught more passes. There were only 3 guys within 2000 yards of his yardage total during that 8-year span. Their names were Harrison, Moss, and Owens. Torry Holt was a maestro, it’s laughable that he isn’t alongside those guys in Canton. From your list, I think Kevin Williams and Patrick Willis both get in. They were both almost consensus best in the world at what they did for a period of years (especially Willis), and I think that’s just about the best way to get the committee to pull the trigger. A few of those guys (Thomas, Wayne, Young) feel like classic senior committee picks, as guys who were more appreciated by other players and close followers of the game than the general public. Until Julio Jones, no one was even close to Torry Holt through his first 8 years. Games Receiving Misc Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg AV G GS Tgt Rec Yds▼ Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Yrs PB AP1 1 Julio Jones 2011 2018 1-6 ATL NFL 102 111 110 1095 698 10731 15.37 51 96.7 63.7% 9.80 8 6 2 2 Torry Holt 1999 2006 1-6 RAM NFL 103 126 116 1189 712 10675 14.99 64 84.7 59.9% 8.98 8 6 1 3 Calvin Johnson 2007 2014 1-2 DET NFL 83 119 114 1163 643 10405 16.18 74 87.4 55.3% 8.95 8 5 3 4 Jerry Rice * 1985 1992 1-16 SFO NFL 112 124 111 139 610 10273 16.84 103 82.8 8 7 6 5 Randy Moss* 1998 2005 1-21 TOT NFL 106 125 119 1110 634 10147 16.00 98 81.2 57.1% 9.14 8 5 3 6 Marvin Harrison* 1996 2003 1-19 CLT NFL 105 123 121 1221 759 10072 13.27 83 81.9 62.2% 8.25 8 5 2 7 Antonio Brown 2010 2017 6-195 PIT NFL 92 115 88 1107 733 9910 13.52 59 86.2 66.2% 8.95 8 6 4 8 Larry Fitzgerald 2004 2011 1-3 CRD NFL 76 124 123 1192 693 9615 13.87 73 77.5 58.1% 8.07 8 6 1 9 DeAndre Hopkins 2013 2020 1-27 TOT NFL 68 121 121 1151 709 9569 13.50 58 79.1 61.6% 8.31 8 4 3 10 Andre Johnson 2003 2010 1-3 HTX NFL 86 115 115 1100 673 9164 13.62 50 79.7 61.2% 8.33 8 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 The Bengals, despite 52 years in the NFL, only have Paul Brown and Anthony Munoz in. Kenny Anderson should be in. Isaac Curtis certainly has an argument. Ken Riley has all time INT numbers. Willie Roaf and Jonathon Ogden were considered all time great LTs. Who was the premier RT during their crossover? Willie Anderson. He should absolutely be getting recognition too, despite the lousy teams he played on. Corey Dillon has a strong argument as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluther Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Roger Craig should be in over all the backs mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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