Gravedigger93 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) As every year I did a mock draft with 31 other guys from Germany, Austria and Switzerland and I took over Gute's duties for the first 4 rounds. Here's what I ended up with: Round 11) Jacksonville Jaguars - Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson2) New York Jets - Zach Wilson, QB, BYU3) San Francisco 49ers (from Houston via Miami) - Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State4) Atlanta Falcons - Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida5) New England Patriots (from Cincinnati Bengals) - Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State6) Miami Dolphins (from Philadelphia) - Ja'Marr Chase, WR, LSU7) Detroit Lions - Penei Sewell, OT, Oregon8 ) Carolina Panthers - Christian Darrisaw, OT, Virginia Tech9) Denver Broncos - Micah Parsons, LB, Penn State10) Dallas Cowboys - Patrick Surtain II, CB, Alabama11) New York Giants - Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama12) Philadelphia Eagles (from San Francisco via Miami) - DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama13) Los Angeles Chargers - Rashawn Slater, OT, Northwestern14) Minnesota Vikings - Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT, USC15) Cincinnati Bengals (from New England Patriots) - Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan16) Chicago Bears (from Arizona Cardinals) - Mac Jones, QB, Alabama17) Tennessee Titans (from Las Vegas Raiders) - Jaycee Horn, CB, South Carolina18) Miami Dolphins - Jaelan Phillips, DE, Miami19) Washington Football Team - Zaven Collins, LB, Tulsa20) Arizona Cardinals (from Chicago Bears) - Caleb Farley, CB, Virginia Tech21) Indianapolis Colts - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, LB/S, Notre Dame22) Las Vegas Raiders (from Tennessee Titans) - Teven Jenkins, OT, OK State23) New York Jets (from Seattle Seahawks) - Greg Newsome, CB, Northwestern24) Pittsburgh Steelers - Najee Harris, RB, Alabama25) Jacksonville Jaguars (from Los Angeles Rams) - Christian Barmore, DT, Alabama26) Cleveland Browns - Jayson Oweh, DE, Penn State27) Baltimore Ravens - Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma28) New Orleans Saints - Azeez Ojulari, DE, Georgia29) Carolina Panthers (from Green Bay Packers) - Landon Dickerson, C, Alabama30) Buffalo Bills - Gregory Rousseau, DE, Miami31) Kansas City Chiefs - Carlos Basham, Wake Forest32) New York Jets (from Tampa Bay Buccaneers) - Rashod Bateman, WR, MinnesotaRound 233) Jacksonville Jaguars - Alex Leatherwood, OT, Alabama34) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from New York Jets) - Joseph Ossai, DE, Texas35) Atlanta Falcons - Travis Etienne, RB, Clemson36) Dallas Cowboys (from Texans via Dolphins) - Trevon Moehrig, S, TCU37) Philadelphia Eagles - Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State38) Cincinnati Bengals - Sam Cosmi, OT, Texas 39) Green Bay Packers (from Carolina Panthers) - Asante Samuel, CB, FSU With my main targets Greg Newsome II and Christian Barmore off the board at 29 I decided to take an uptrade offer from the Carolina Panthers. I sent 29 and 135 to CAR for 39 and 73. Not a very usual trade, but we were limited to trade 2021 draft picks. Samuel was my fallback option for 29, so I was lucky to just upgrade my late 4th to an early 3rd without missing out on a player. Size isn't an issue for me as we all see what undersized corners can do everytime we watch #23 play. 40) Denver Broncos - Jaylen Mayfield, OT, Michigan41) Cincinnati Bengals (from Detroit Lions) - Elijah Moore, WR, Ole Miss42) Miami Dolphins (from New York Giants) - Kadarius Toney, WR, Florida43) San Francisco 49ers - Dillon Radunz, OT, North Dakota State44) New York Giants (from Miami Dolphins) - Liam Eichenberg, OT, Notre Dame45) Tennessee Titans (from Vikings via Jaguars) - Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU46) Detroit Lions (from Patriots via Bengals) - Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri47) Los Angeles Chargers - Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington48) Las Vegas Raiders - Jamin Davis, LB, Kentucky49) Arizona Cardinals - Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue50) Miami Dolphins - Javonte Williams, RB, UNC51) Washington Football Team - Richie Grant, S, UCF52) Chicago Bears - Walker Little, OT, Stanford53) Jacksonville Jaguars (from Tennessee Titans) - Jevon Holland, S, Oregon54) Indianapolis Colts - Brady Christensen, OT, BYU55) Pittsburgh Steelers - Wyatt Davis, OG, Ohio State56) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Seahawks) - Elijah Molden, CB, Washington57) Los Angeles Rams - Trey Hill, C, Georgia58) Baltimore Ravens - Jamar Johnson, S, Indiana59) Cleveland Browns - Ifeatu Melifonwu, CB, Syracuse60) New Orleans Saints - Tyson Campbell, CB, Georgia61) Buffalo Bills - Joe Tryon, DE, Washington 62) Green Bay Packers - James Hudson, OT, Cincinnati I was hoping that one of the Tier 2 OTs will fall to 62, but there was quite a run on them mid of the 2nd. I personally would have preferred a more experienced plug and play OT with the unknown situation of DBakh and the loss of Wagner, but had to go with upside instead. Hudson has only one year of starting experience, but has all the tools to become an excellent OT in the NFL. So maybe this pick doesn't turn out right away, but in the future. Hudson was the last OT that I considered here, if he was gone, I would have picked Jabril Cox. 63) Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia64) Seattle Seahawks (from Buccaneers) - Josh Myers, OC, Ohio StateRound 365) Jacksonville Jaguars - Dyami Brown, WR, UNC66) New York Jets - Jabril Cox, LB, LSU67) Houston Texans - Aaron Robinson, CB, UCF68) Atlanta Falcons - Hamsah Nasirildeen, S, FSU69) Dallas Cowboys (from Cincinnati Bengals) - Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa70) Philadelphia Eagles - Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse71) Denver Broncos - Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis72) Detroit Lions - Marvin Wilson, DT, FSU 73) Green Bay Packers (from Carolina Panthers) - Alim McNeill, DT, NC State Kenny Clark is the only NT on the roster that you can trust on and with drafting the big boy out of NC State I think he has at least a solid backup, but also one guy to plug in at NT and move Kenny outside at the same time. 74) Washington Football Team (from San Francisco 49ers) - Michael Carter, RB, UNC75) Cincinnati Bengals (from Dallas Cowboys) - Kelvin Joseph, CB, Kentucky76) New York Giants - Chazz Surratt, LB, UNC77) Los Angeles Chargers - Paulson Adebo, CB, Stanford78) Minnesota Vikings - Quinn Meinerz, C, Wisconson-Whitewater79) Las Vegas Raiders (from Arizona Cardinals) - Jay Tufele, DT, USC80) Las Vegas Raiders - Jackson Carman, OG, Clemson81) Miami Dolphins - Baron Browning, LB, Ohio State82) Washington Football Team - Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame83) Arizona Cardinals (from Chicago Bears) - Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami84) Philadelphia Eagles (from Indianapolis Colts) - Kyle Trask, QB, Florida85) Las Vegas Raiders (from Tennessee Titans) - Tylan Wallace, WR, Oklahoma State86) New York Jets (from Seattle Seahawks) - Khalil Herbert, RB, Vriginia Tech87) Pittsburgh Steelers - Spencer Brown, OT, Northern Iowa88) Los Angeles Rams - Cameron McGrone, LB, Michigan89) Cleveland Browns - Osa Odigizuwa, DT, UCLA90) Minnesota Vikings (from Baltimore Ravens) - Ronny Perkins, DE, Oklahoma91) Cleveland Browns (from New Orleans Saints) - Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR, Iowa 92) Green Bay Packers - Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC EQ's younger and way more talented brother. He would be the clear slot guy and another dangerous weapon for ARod. Plus with no WRs under contract after 2021 I wanted to dip in there early. It was a toss up between him and D'Wayne Eskridge, who was picked very shortly after my selection. 93) Buffalo Bills - Tay Gowan, CB, UCF94) Kansas City Chiefs - Stone Forsythe, OT, Florida95) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Demetric Felton, RB, UCLA96) Cincinnati Bengals (from New England Patriots; compensatory selection) - Hunter Long, TE, Boston College97) Los Angeles Chargers (compensatory selection) - D'Wayne Eskridge, WR, Western Michigan98) New Orleans Saints (compensatory selection) - Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee99) Miami Dolphins (from Cowboys, compensatory selection) - Kellen Mond, QB, Texas A&M100) Tennessee Titans (compensatory selection) - Payton Turner, DE, Houston101) Detroit Lions (from Los Angeles Rams; compensatory selection) - Davis Mills, QB, Stanford102) San Francisco 49ers (special compensatory selection) - Patrick Johnson, DE, Tulane103) Los Angeles Rams (special compensatory selection) - Shemar Jean-Charles, CB, Appalachian State104) Baltimore Ravens (special compensatory selection) - Austin Watkins Jr., WR, UAB105) New Orleans Saints (special compensatory selection) - Tyler Shelvin, DT, LSURound 4106) Jacksonville Jaguars - Hamilcar Rashed, DE, Oregon State107) New York Jets - Kendrick Green, OG, Illinois108) Atlanta Falcons - Ben Cleveland, OG, Georgia109) Houston Texans - Nico Collins, WR, Michigan110) Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia Eagles) - Justin Hilliard, LB, Ohio State111) Cincinnati Bengals - Aaron Banks, OG, Notre Dame112) Detroit Lions - Amari Rodgers, WR, Clemson113) Carolina Panthers - Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas114) Denver Broncos - Jordan Smith, DE, UAB115) Dallas Cowboys - Dayo Odeyingbo, DE, Vanderbilt116) New York Giants - Quincy Roche, DE, Miami117) San Francisco 49ers - Ambry Thomas, CB, Michigan118) Los Angeles Chargers - Ar'Darius Washington, S, TCU119) Seattle Seahawks (from Vikings) - Patrick Jones, DE, Pitt 120) Green Bay Packers (from Patriots via Bengals and Lions) - Milton Williams, DT, Louisiana Tech With DL clearly being one of the worst position group on the Packers and also not a very deep or good draft class, I thought I double dip early and select another one which I think was worth the spot and the uptrade (142 and 178 for 120). Williams is a clear 5T and could be in Rotation early on. The RAS of 9.98 was too sexy to pass at that spot 121) Las Vegas Raiders - Trey Sermon, RB, Ohio State122) Cincinnati Bengals (from Cardinals via Texans via Patriots) - Tommy Togiai, DT, Ohio State123) Philadelphia Eagles (from Miami) - Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri124) Washington Football Team - Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville125) Minnesota Vikings (from Chicago Bears) - Cade Johnson, WR, South Dakota State126) Jacksonville Jaguars (from Tennessee Titans) - Kenny Yeboah, TE, Ole Miss127) Indianapolis Colts - Cameron Sample, DE, Tulane128) Pittsburgh Steelers - Brandon Smith, WR, Iowa129) Minnesota Vikings (from Seahawks) - Shakur Brown, CB, Michigan State130) Jacksonville Jaguars (from Los Angeles Rams) - Jalen Twyman, DT, Pittsburgh131) Baltimore Ravens - Rashad Weaver, DE, Pittsburgh132) Cleveland Browns - D'Ante Smith, OT, East Carolina133) New Orleans Saints - Seth Williams, WR, Auburn134) Minnesota Vikings (from Buffalo Bills; conditional) - Divine Deablo, S, Virginia Tech135) Carolina Panthers (from Green Bay Packers) - Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama136) Kansas City Chiefs - Josh Palmer, WR, Tennessee137) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Royce Newman, OG, Ole Miss138) Cincinnati Bengals (from Dallas Cowboys, compensatory selection) - Pete Werner, LB, Ohio State 139) New England Patriots (compensatory selection) - Shi Smith, WR, South Carolina140) Baltimore Ravens (from Steelers, compensatory selection) - Chris Rumph, DE, Duke141) Los Angeles Rams (compensatory selection) - Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame142) Detroit Lions ( from Packers, compensatory selection) - Janarius Robinson, DE, Florida State143) Minnesota Vikings (compensatory selection) - Marlon Tuipulotu, DT, USC Overall I was pretty OK with how it went, I could address most of the needs on the roster without overpaying. Are you happy with my work and outcome or am I fired? 😛 Edited April 9, 2021 by Gravedigger93 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubz41 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Pretty good! Hit the sore spots. I don't really like Samuel very much (he is not Jaire) so you went CB, OT and DT. With the depth at CB I tend to think more OT, DT and then CB. Increases our chance of a OT playing right away. In my scenario it would have been Radunz or Little, 2nd round DT Nixon (he's got a little more length than McNeill) then I would take my man crush so far CB Adebo. But that is really nitpicking, great job on moving around and trading down and then back up. I wouldn't have the heart to draft St.Brown and push his brother off the roster. Edited April 9, 2021 by Dubz41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger93 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dubz41 said: Pretty good! Hit the sore spots. I don't really like Samuel very much (he is not Jaire) so you went CB, OT and DT. With the depth at CB I tend to think more OT, DT and then CB. Increases our chance of a OT playing right away. In my scenario it would have been Radunz or Little, 2nd round DT Nixon (he's got a little more length than McNeill) then I would take my man crush so far CB Adebo. But that is really nitpicking, great job on moving around and trading down and then back up. I wouldn't have the heart to draft St.Brown and push his brother off the roster. Really appreciate your input, Dubz41, thanks for that. Jaire is one of the best CBs in the league, so don't expect a 2nd rounder in any draft just to be as good as him. But if he can be as good as his dad or even better, that would give the Packers a true shutdown corner duo. Don't get me wrong, I really like Radunz, but Samuel was the better OVR player on my board, so I went with him, not expecting the OT run right after. If Radunz fell into the 50s, I'd definitely made a move up for him, but he was just picked right after me. With Little I'm a bit scared, 2 years without football is a red flag for me. I also really like Nixon, not only because of his skill set, but also he is an Iowa alumni. The Packers had great success "lately" with DLs from Iowa. Mike Daniels and one of my all-time favorite Packers, Aaron Kampman. I just didn't like the rest of the OL group to pass on Hudson in the 2nd and at 73 Nixon was gone. I also wasn't picking Amon-Ra to kick his brother out, EQ is in trouble with any WR drafted and I'm sure the Packers will do exactly that at some point in the Draft. He just has to stay healthy and show up, then he will still have a shot to be on the Packers Squad. Edited April 9, 2021 by Gravedigger93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Nothing real crazy here. The trade is probably a bit optimistic for my liking. Probably need to cough up another 4th round pick to get that deal done. Historically speaking, the cost of moving from the early part of the second round into the late first round is usually a ~4th round pick. It comes up a bit short in terms of value, so the Panthers probably need to add something else. Either add a 5th round pick or a future 3rd round pick would make sense, but Carolina already dealt their SRP next year so they're probably done dealing from future picks. As for the draft, nothing crazy here. Solid picks all the way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Nothing real crazy here. The trade is probably a bit optimistic for my liking. Probably need to cough up another 4th round pick to get that deal done. Historically speaking, the cost of moving from the early part of the second round into the late first round is usually a ~4th round pick. It comes up a bit short in terms of value, so the Panthers probably need to add something else. Either add a 5th round pick or a future 3rd round pick would make sense, but Carolina already dealt their SRP next year so they're probably done dealing from future picks. As for the draft, nothing crazy here. Solid picks all the way around. I like the draft, but if I am sitting in my chair and Rousseau is available at 29 and we trade out I probably smash my computer. And I don't even love Rousseau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 This draft is completely sensible and straightforward, which means it's incredibly unlikely. I do like the trade down as a viable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I looked at how the draft fell, was upset when we traded out of the first with Bateman on the board. So...not thrilled with the trade initially. But, by trading back, you got a "starter". Top 3 corner who is going to see snaps. And I am a fan of Samuel Jr. And I think you took him in the right spot. I like Hudson as a project. That's fine. McNeil is a riser. I know nothing about him except his write ups. Which is exactly as you put him. Milton is intriguing. I also would have been fine with Radunz with the first pick and Robinson with the second pick. I traditionally like the trade down theory. In this case, though, I'd love it if you re-ran your mock and took Bateman in the first. Just to see how it shook out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger93 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 hours ago, JBURGE said: I like the draft, but if I am sitting in my chair and Rousseau is available at 29 and we trade out I probably smash my computer. And I don't even love Rousseau Why would you be upset? Rousseau has only one year of tape, that looks intriguing though. But the Packers are pretty much set on EDGEs, so I surely didn't want another luxury pick, especially in the first round. The 2020 Draft was more than enough luxury for a team that is in a win now mode and has other glaring holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger93 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, vegas492 said: I looked at how the draft fell, was upset when we traded out of the first with Bateman on the board. So...not thrilled with the trade initially. But, by trading back, you got a "starter". Top 3 corner who is going to see snaps. And I am a fan of Samuel Jr. And I think you took him in the right spot. I like Hudson as a project. That's fine. McNeil is a riser. I know nothing about him except his write ups. Which is exactly as you put him. Milton is intriguing. I also would have been fine with Radunz with the first pick and Robinson with the second pick. I traditionally like the trade down theory. In this case, though, I'd love it if you re-ran your mock and took Bateman in the first. Just to see how it shook out. Bateman was the only guy of the 10 Players that I missed because of the downtrade, that was very high on my board. So he was in consideration. I know it sounds stupid, but the Packers just don't draft WRs in Round 1. The last one I remember was Javon Walker. And given the track record they have with 2nd and 3rd rounders (Jennings, Jones, Nelson, cobb, Adams) I'm fine with that. So that played to my mind when passing on Bateman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gravedigger93 said: Bateman was the only guy of the 10 Players that I missed because of the downtrade, that was very high on my board. So he was in consideration. I know it sounds stupid, but the Packers just don't draft WRs in Round 1. The last one I remember was Javon Walker. And given the track record they have with 2nd and 3rd rounders (Jennings, Jones, Nelson, cobb, Adams) I'm fine with that. So that played to my mind when passing on Bateman. Oh, I get it. And I'm not disagreeing with it. I just think that Bateman as a prospect at WR is greater than Samuel Jr the prospect at cornerback. We could use a corner more, but Bateman is a clear tier ahead of Samuel Jr for me. As a prospect. The issue with going WR in the first is how it affects the rest of the draft. I've got zero issue taking OT/CB with the first two picks, that makes the draft easier to manage. When that doesn't happen? That's when everything else turns to crap whenever I run a mock simulator. Same thing if Barmore is there at DL. You have to take him. Then you have to have a strategy on how to get a good corner/OT with the next two picks. And that may mean trading. Then you are chasing WR. Draft is tough when you don't do CB/OT with the first two. But look at those, take your trade away. Take Bateman. Would you stand with your picks, or would they change and how? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Albert Einstein : “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Every year Packer fans make their draft shopping list of positions of 'need' and than are disappointed when the Packers don't draft from the position that everyone knows they 'need.' Every year some different positions, but always a shopping list. Last year it was WR and DL were positions that the Packers just could not live without, Rodgers has no weapons and the DL just got run over in the NFCC game against the 49er's. Yet the Packers didn't draft a player from either position. Hmm. For how many years have people been claiming that they need to invest high on a ILB, it never happens. Every year there will be those that work in front offices that point blank tell everyone that they will draft the BPA, yet it seldom sinks in. The Packers drafted Gary fresh off of spending over 100M on the Smith brothers in FA, draft a QB with a 1st ballot HOFer with 4 years left on his contract and draft a RB with a Pro Bowl RB and solid backup already cemented in place. No 'needs' there and all with 1st or 2nd round picks. Is it possible that the Packers really do follow their board and draft BPA regardless of position? Some may reach that conclusion, but first they will need to throw away the shopping list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 TIL ESB has a brother at USC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJerkDave Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Norm said: TIL ESB has a brother at USC I believe he also has a brother, Osiris, at Stanford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gravedigger93 said: 6 hours ago, JBURGE said: I like the draft, but if I am sitting in my chair and Rousseau is available at 29 and we trade out I probably smash my computer. And I don't even love Rousseau Why would you be upset? Rousseau has only one year of tape, that looks intriguing though. But the Packers are pretty much set on EDGEs, so I surely didn't want another luxury pick, especially in the first round. The 2020 Draft was more than enough luxury for a team that is in a win now mode and has other glaring holes. Edge is a premium position. We will move on from Preston after this year I'm sure and having 3 solid players there would be great. Getting a player with his upside that late for me is a no brainer. He would also see playing time as a rookie - Z can play inside on passing downs, and Preston can play corner Edited April 9, 2021 by JBURGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger93 Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, vegas492 said: But look at those, take your trade away. Take Bateman. Would you stand with your picks, or would they change and how? If Bateman was the pick, I'd have a hard time on passing on Stokes at #62. But I also like the 3rd round graded players so there would be a couple of trade scenarios which I would have considered to get picks in the 3rd and early 4th. I cannot say with what I'd ended up, I usually like to react on how the board falls. But I'm quite sure that I didn't take 2 DLs in the first 4 rounds as only the downtrade brought me in the position to get both McNeill and Williams. If I had my original 4th, Dylan Moses would have been very high on my board for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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