Matts4313 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 7 hours ago, showtime said: That's the newest game that has allowed cross play for all. Cross play with a game like Fortnite has been on PS4 since 2018. Bruh, these are head line articles within the last 90 days: Quote Sony really fought against cross-play And they are still fighting against it today, judging by what the Epic boss Tim Sweeney mentioned at the Epic vs. Apple trial. Quote PlayStation boss says Sony wants more cross-play titles but recent actions may suggest otherwise Quote Sony really hated PS4 crossplay, confidential documents reveal 58 Epic Games was trying to force Sony to budge By Tom Warren@tomwarren May 3, 2021, 2:05pm EDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Star field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I'm not sure I am following correctly on the back and forth, but mostly universal cross-play on the PS4 is a very recent thing. That said, it has been on Fortnite since like 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, MikeT14 said: I'm not sure I am following correctly on the back and forth, but mostly universal cross-play on the PS4 is a very recent thing. That said, it has been on Fortnite since like 2018. Thats what I said to @showtime, but I get the impression he is trying to debate it? I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Matts4313 said: That space-fallout game from Bethseda. Star-something. I'm not sure I'd say it's more anticipated than God of War Ragnarok or Horizon Forbidden West. I'm definitely excited for it and will play it since Todd Howard described it as "Skyrim in space" but there's also a lot of people hesitant as faith in Bethesda isn't quite as high as it used to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Also to be fair the crossplay thing went both ways, during the 360/PS3 era when Microsoft was outperforming Sony they were the ones hesitant about crossplay while Sony advocated it... Then during the PS4/Xbone era when Sony pulled way ahead from the start the roles reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_shadows Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: Thats what I said to @showtime, but I get the impression he is trying to debate it? I dunno. Probably just a misunderstanding of what you mean by crossplay, crossplay with PC has existed in PS4 since 2014 I believe, but "universal" crossplay Fortnite was first. Little known fact about crossplay, Sony actually did it first. There was crossplay between PS2 and Dreamcast... But only in Japan... And only for one game (that I'm aware of). EDIT: After looking it up I stand corrected, the first universal crossplay game was Final Fantasy 11 between PS2, 360, and PC. Edited July 12, 2021 by rob_shadows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I like that this list is objectively like, not great. You have Katamari and 2K and Madden and They Are Billions, while some historic franchises like Metroid, Sonic, GTA, God of War, Uncharted, etc. are all absent. No Rockstar games make the cut. I don't see a Nintendo game more recent than Wii Sports, or any Sony first party games. Objectively, there are so many things wrong with this list. But, it's your list, so that's kind of how it should be. It's your personal opinion and should be inherently flawed by biases, preferences, and accessibilities. I disagree whole-heartedly with many things about it, but I don't think debating would be the point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: But, it's your list, so that's kind of how it should be. It's your personal opinion and should be inherently flawed by biases, preferences, and accessibilities. I disagree whole-heartedly with many things about it, but I don't think debating would be the point. Thanks I appreciate that. I'm going to explain the games you listed in detail, but just for further commentary why they aren't on the list. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Katamari Innovation and replay ability were big parts of my list. Also I defy anyone to fire up this game and not have fun with it. Absolutely deserves to be on the list IMO. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: 2K and Madden Lots of people gripe about these games but ultimately millions of people play them every year and enjoy them. They are two of the biggest franchises in history at this point I don't understand why anyone gripes they are on the list. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: They Are Billions This game is fantastic. If you haven't played it you should try it. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Metroid I've never played a metroid game. Was never a fan of side scrollers. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Sonic I didn't own a sega. Although again, I'm not a fan of side scrollers. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: God of War I played the first one only. It was ok, wasn't blown away. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: Uncharted I haven't played any of these. Although I have played Tomb Raider and thought they were boring. Not sure how similar they are. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: No Rockstar games make the cut. LA Noire is on the list. The only other two Rockstar games I've ever played are GTA3 and the first Red Dead Redemption. I didn't really like GTA3, I can't explain it more than that it just wasn't for me. Never had any interest in trying the other GTA games. I'm sure they've improved on the concept a ton since the GTA3 days but the concept itself just never interested me. GTA is set in a more real type world while I generally prefer fantasy settings. Also I played RDR and found it incredibly boring and never got past the first few hours or so. Again its more of a real world setting as well and just didn't grab my attention. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: I don't see a Nintendo game more recent than Wii Sports That's because as I've aged the kid like nature of Nintendo games lost my interest. I'm 38 years old. 11 hours ago, Jakuvious said: or any Sony first party games Ya after PS2 I haven't really played any PS at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 9:04 AM, MikeT14 said: Talking of "most played video games of all time", Zeus Master of Olympus is in my Top 10. On sale for $5. I never played this but is is like Pharoah or the Rome city builder games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, MKnight82 said: I never played this but is is like Pharoah or the Rome city builder games? I think a similar one was called Cleopatra. It's very simplistic in it's gameplay though. I just love it. The nostalgia is why it holds up for me. Probably been playing it for 20 years on and off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/9/2021 at 5:57 PM, Flatlyner said: Kind of shocked Wasteland didn't make the cut. I mostly agreed with your top 10 outside of FF and Resident Evil, but, I must confess, I have not played either of those games, so I could conceivably be incorrect. I'd add these to the list, likely very high: Baseball Stars (for the NES I believe?) - Played the hell out of this game for years. So much so that I had to buy several new cartridges (apparently they used to have small batteries in them that would run out). Was the first RPG-like element to a sports game I've ever seen. You could increase ratings with good play (buy earning $) and customize every player to your liking. You could even have ladies on your custom teams. I was so addicted to this game. Grim Dawn (which I'm actually shocked you haven't tried and enjoyed) Very Diablo like but with many more class options/combos), extremely fun. 7 Days to Die - A zombie sandbox that is very addicting and one of the best games I've ever played. X-Com: Enemy Unknown - Much like XCom2. Great game. I also love X-Com 2 Divinity Original Sin 2 - Likely my favorite party based RPG of all time. Almost 200 hours played. Pillars of Eternity (both) - Great party based RPG's. Honorable Mention - Rim World. Just try it. Great list and well done MK - I've added games to my wishlist from your list. Unfortunately I haven't played any of these games. Maybe Baseball Stars? So far back hard to remember. I actually own 7 Days to Die but have never played it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: I think a similar one was called Cleopatra. It's very simplistic in it's gameplay though. I just love it. The nostalgia is why it holds up for me. Probably been playing it for 20 years on and off. That's how Lords of Magic and Master of Orion are for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 This makes me want to do a list myself. But there is no way I could do more than like a top 20, and I haven't played a lot of classics to it will get nice and flamed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 54 minutes ago, JBURGE said: This makes me want to do a list myself. But there is no way I could do more than like a top 20, and I haven't played a lot of classics to it will get nice and flamed Do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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