MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: Lonzo Ball is better? They’re the same caliber of player. Lonzo has more “upside”. I wanted to keep Lonzo but Graham is basically the same guy but probably won’t get a whole lot better than he is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, MookieMonstah said: It’s very obvious a lot of people on here just don’t know much about Graham. just some very poor asset management and overall a disastrous start to the Zion era for Griffin. but with JV and Graham perhaps they can put a better team on the floor this year. i don't understand why they would move on from lonzo, but, shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Lonzo Ball is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, MookieMonstah said: They’re the same caliber of player. Lonzo has more “upside”. I wanted to keep Lonzo but Graham is basically the same guy but probably won’t get a whole lot better than he is now. they are very different players. lonzo has starter on good team upside. he could be an elite complimentary piece. graham is a starter on a bad/mid team or a bench player. but definitely a nice shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 lol he really hated golden state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, champ11 said: just some very poor asset management and overall a disastrous start to the Zion era for Griffin. but with JV and Graham perhaps they can put a better team on the floor this year. i don't understand why they would move on from lonzo, but, shrug He clearly didn’t want to be here. Why would you match a deal on a guy who’s ready to move on? They did that with Eric Gordon, howd that turn out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, champ11 said: they are very different players. lonzo has starter on good team upside. he could be an elite complimentary piece. graham is a starter on a bad/mid team or a bench player. but definitely a nice shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Texansfan713 said: lol he really hated golden state anyone that takes shots at GS is good in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, MookieMonstah said: He clearly didn’t want to be here. Why would you match a deal on a guy who’s ready to move on? They did that with Eric Gordon, howd that turn out? it's unfortunate that bad organizations stay bad, I don't want that for NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ11 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 minute ago, MookieMonstah said: i've seen them both play, but good to see this twice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampfgeist Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Lonzo Ball is better? He’s better, but I’m not sure he’s $10m per better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, champ11 said: i've seen them both play, but good to see this twice So what’s the big difference? Graham ranked 6th in defensive RPM. The biggest difference is name value. What makes Lonzo worlds better than Graham? I’ll concede he has more upside because of his length and athleticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, champ11 said: it's unfortunate that bad organizations stay bad, I don't want that for NO That didn’t answer the question. He didn’t want to be here. Why match it and have an unhappy guy in a young locker room? You’re smart enough to know how stupid that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kampfgeist Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, champ11 said: they are very different players. lonzo has starter on good team upside. he could be an elite complimentary piece. graham is a starter on a bad/mid team or a bench player. but definitely a nice shooter Graham is great at simply running an offense and a good locker room dude. It’s not outrageous to say that’s a very valuable trait in a PG. He’ll operate selflessly within the offense, is a great distributor and isn’t a ball stopper. Going to be a positive BPM contributor every season. He had a ROUGH shooting start to last season and that skewed his final stats, but man will space the floor for NO. Not trying to make him out to be a superstar …. or star…. but he’ll be a positive for NO at a very reasonable $ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Lonzo ain't even a great finisher, but he was 60.8% (last year) and 62.6% (this year) inside 0-3 feet. Devonte' Graham was 54.3% (last year) and 44% (this year) Do y'all realize how terrible that is? lol This is laughably bad. But, hey he can catch & shoot from 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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