NCOUGHMAN Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 16 hours ago, oakdb36 said: He's not at 50% on shorter 3rd downs (6 or under) either. And it's a drop off from last year. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 15 hours ago, BackinBlack said: I really doubt most QBs are over 50% of 3rd and 4+, thats all I am saying. 100% agreed he needs to improve on 3rd down though. What’s more realistic Jacobs running for 40 tds or us being 50% on 3rd down vs wft. I think the bengals were 50% on third down vs us 2 weeks ago iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: What’s more realistic Jacobs running for 40 tds or us being 50% on 3rd down vs wft. I think the bengals were 50% on third down vs us 2 weeks ago iirc. All im saying if you are expecting us to be 50% on 3rd downs your going to be disappointed more often than not. Mahommes against Dal, was 5 of 13 on 3rd down . An Average of 7.7 yards to go. (384%) Carr against Dal was, 7 of 18 on 3rd down. An average of 9.2 yards to Go (.388) On 3rd downs over 5+ KC was 1/6 with an INT on 3rd downs over 5+ Raiders were 8/14 3rd and 2 - penalty good 3rd and 7 - no good 3rd and 4 - good 3rd and 4 - no good 3rd and 22 - no good 3rd and 2 - good 3rd and 6- interception 3rd and 14 - no good 3rd and 7 - no good 3rd and 6 - no good 3rd and 1 - good 3rd and 6 - good 3rd and 19 - no good. Just stating 3rd down percentages means nothing. because you arent giving any context lol. Notice how Mahommes only converts once when its over 5+ yards. Our average 3rd down was 9.2 yards lol. This is both against Dal. 1 week apart. Id say, Mahommes is better than Carr, KC Oline Better than ours, their WR better than ours, Their TE split?, def proven more than ours, RBs draw?, Coaching better than ours. Yet they still struggle on 3rd and long. Expecting 50% is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BackinBlack said: All im saying if you are expecting us to be 50% on 3rd downs your going to be disappointed more often than not. Mahommes against Dal, was 5 of 13 on 3rd down . An Average of 7.7 yards to go. (384%) Carr against Dal was, 7 of 18 on 3rd down. An average of 9.2 yards to Go (.388) On 3rd downs over 5+ KC was 1/6 with an INT on 3rd downs over 5+ Raiders were 8/14 3rd and 2 - penalty good 3rd and 7 - no good 3rd and 4 - good 3rd and 4 - no good 3rd and 22 - no good 3rd and 2 - good 3rd and 6- interception 3rd and 14 - no good 3rd and 7 - no good 3rd and 6 - no good 3rd and 1 - good 3rd and 6 - good 3rd and 19 - no good. Just stating 3rd down percentages means nothing. because you arent giving any context lol. Notice how Mahommes only converts once when its over 5+ yards. Our average 3rd down was 9.2 yards lol. This is both against Dal. 1 week apart. Id say, Mahommes is better than Carr, KC Oline Better than ours, their WR better than ours, Their TE split?, def proven more than ours, RBs draw?, Coaching better than ours. Yet they still struggle on 3rd and long. Expecting 50% is crazy. That’s why kc has the record that the have this year. Definitely a off year for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, NCOUGHMAN said: That’s why kc has the record that the have this year. Definitely a off year for them. having a better percentage on 3rd down this year vs last year, is why they are doing worse? 51.52% this year, vs 48% last year? I am confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: having a better percentage on 3rd down this year vs last year, is why they are doing worse? 51.52% this year, vs 48% last year? I am confused. 42 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: having a better percentage on 3rd down this year vs last year, is why they are doing worse? 51.52% this year, vs 48% last year? I am confused. Last game they were 33% iirc last 3 games 44% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 hours ago, agarcia34 said: Their secondary is awful. Raiders with Jackson should be able to take advantage of that all game. The rest advantage the Raiders have is huge especially at this time of the year. But the Raiders have shown they can’t be trusted. A game they should win but we seen them lose this type of game over and over If Carr plays well the Raiders win if he doesn’t they don’t win it’s just that simple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: That’s why kc has the record that the have this year. Definitely a off year for them. KC's off year is 8-4 and likely 1st in the AFC in a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Last game they were 33% iirc last 3 games 44% They are 3-0 in their last 3 if you are saying they are at 44% on 3rd down, that means they are below their season average on 3rd down success, but have had their best stretch in terms of wins in that time period. probably because pointing to one stat, doesn’t tell an entire story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: #TrustTheCoin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Also good to note, Dallas is the 2nd best in the NFL at 3rd down D. Washington is the worst, so hopefully we see some long TD drives this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 The last 3 games Wash D has really improved on 3rd downs though, and our D has regressed. Obviously we need to get them into 3rd and longs and get them off field. If they don’t have McKissic that is a huge loss for them on 3rd downs. offensively, we need to stay on down and distance schedule. Limit the stupid Presnap penalties is a big if, but, has a massive impact on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 42 minutes ago, NYRaider said: KC's off year is 8-4 and likely 1st in the AFC in a couple of weeks. Exactly. different levels compared to mediocrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 So over Jacobs' inability to stay healthy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Can’t shake the memories of the beating WFT put on us in 2017. I don’t feel confident in this team at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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