Jraider91 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Forge said: Hitting that Patriots tree 🤢🤢🤢🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Forge said: Hitting that Patriots tree I like McDaniels personally but the whole “let’s bring the whole NE org. mindset” is pretty blah to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, .Buzz said: I like McDaniels personally but the whole “let’s bring the whole NE org. mindset” is pretty blah to me. At least with the GM there have been 2 good ones in TEN and Tampa, HC is like borderline 0fer - O'Brian as a HC was pretty good I suppose until he started trading great players for ketchup packets Edited January 30, 2022 by Jraider91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Jraider91 said: At least with the GM there have been 2 good ones in TEN and Tampa, HC is like borderline 0fer - O'Brian as a HC was pretty good I suppose until he started trading great players for ketchup packets More so the fact they’re hiring a GM AND HC from the Patriots. Don’t love that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, .Buzz said: More so the fact they’re hiring a GM AND HC from the Patriots. Don’t love that. Davis had it in his head he had to pair because of Gruden/Mayock being such a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, Forge said: The thing that makes me nervous for Leftwich in that situation is that unless he has some assurances that he will at least likely be the one taking over for Arians when Bruce is done, I'm not sure that his star will ever be as bright as it is now. Losing Brady is not going to go easy on that offense, so optically, if it all falls apart, he may not even be a priority in the next coaching cycle. Agree 100%. Coordinators can go quickly from "can't miss" to forgotten. Darrell Bevell OC Seattle and Teryl Austin DC Detroit? come to mind. JAX potentially has a franchise Qb also. However, pretty much a coach will only get 1 shot at HC. If it goes off the rails, no matter how, a second chance highly unlikely. Case in point, Raheem Morris. Hired by the Bucs. Josh Freeman -1st rd Qb selected. Second season together 10 win season. Complete meltdown as a team. Raheem done. Sure he did a cameo for ATL, but it was not a real shot at taking the reigns long-term again. To Leftwich s credit, the offense was top 3 in scoring during Jameis's 30 for 30 season. A lot to digest for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: Yeah he's what 4th longest in the AFC? BB, Tomlin, Reid then him? 5-8 new HC each offseason it seems like. Doesn't take long to become a "long tenured" coach. The winning enough games is the challenge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, ravishingone said: Agree 100%. Coordinators can go quickly from "can't miss" to forgotten. Darrell Bevell OC Seattle and Teryl Austin DC Detroit? come to mind. JAX potentially has a franchise Qb also. However, pretty much a coach will only get 1 shot at HC. If it goes off the rails, no matter how, a second chance highly unlikely. Case in point, Raheem Morris. Hired by the Bucs. Josh Freeman -1st rd Qb selected. Second season together 10 win season. Complete meltdown as a team. Raheem done. Sure he did a cameo for ATL, but it was not a real shot at taking the reigns long-term again. To Leftwich s credit, the offense was top 3 in scoring during Jameis's 30 for 30 season. A lot to digest for sure. Especially coordinators like Leftwich, Morris. Get forgotten fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jraider91 said: Especially coordinators like Leftwich, Morris. Get forgotten fast ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, NVRamsFan said: Yeah he's what 4th longest in the AFC? BB, Tomlin, Reid then him? Harbaugh is 3rd behind BB and Tomlin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I don't have an issue with McDaniels. Best of luck to him. I do have an issue with all these NFL teams deciding the BB vs Brady argument was really just about 'The Patriot Way" Its like thinking all you needed was the triangle offense and Luc Longley and you too could be the 90s Bulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, .Buzz said: I like McDaniels personally but the whole “let’s bring the whole NE org. mindset” is pretty blah to me. Yup, especially after nearly seven years of it simply not working... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49ersfan Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, NVRamsFan said: 2017 was a pretty good coaching cycle. Besides Shanny & McVay, the Bills also hired McDermott Doug Marrone got the Jags to an AFCCG & Lynn helped develop Herbert last year as well. The only flop was Vance Joseph 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jraider91 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, .Buzz said: ? I'm happy the implication of my comment is clear enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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