Week 16 TNF: San Francisco 49ers (8-6) at Tennessee Titans (9-5)

[Manny/Patrick]

I love Jimmy and wish him the best in his career, but he isn’t it. He is just like Kaepernick and even though he tied the game, we should have been ahead by way more before the Titans came back. This is his last year here and maybe he can upset the cowboys or bucs, but he will get trashed in the championship game

[Dr A W Niloc]

1 hour ago, Forge said:

So the original service gives whatever data without context (important),

     Correct.

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they're own evaluations (subjective)

     Strange characterization but okay.  N.B.:  The evaluations are their data.  (These guys love their charts.)

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and then the user just creates whatever system they want?

     The users do as much or as little as they wish with it.  Weighting it would be one of myriad applications.

     Let me give you a simple, bread and butter example.

     Green Bay has the NFL's #1 WR with hot garbage behind him.  Against a 21-32-42 CB1-CB2-CB3 configuration Adams is going to feast.  Against a 4-9-89 backfield there's going to be trouble.

     Let's say New England has a flatter constellation of three average WRs:  rated 21-31-37.  You can see at a glance that they will be mediocre against the 21-32-42 backfield but the WRs are all good enough to exploit the CB3 weak link of the 4-9-89 defense.

[TecmoSuperJoe]

2 hours ago, Manny/Patrick said:

I love Jimmy and wish him the best in his career, but he isn’t it. He is just like Kaepernick and even though he tied the game, we should have been ahead by way more before the Titans came back. This is his last year here and maybe he can upset the cowboys or bucs, but he will get trashed in the championship game

If he wins two straight playoff games, that's actually pretty good for anyone regardless of who they are. Many a talented QBs have suffered the same fate. 

[Forge]

Just now, TecmoSuperJoe said:

If he wins two straight playoff games, that's actually pretty good for anyone regardless of who they are. Many a talented QBs have suffered the same fate. 

Playoffs are a fickle mistress and can often be random

[squire12]

9 minutes ago, Forge said:

Playoffs are a fickle mistress and can often be random

Eli Manning is the classic on this

6 playoff appearances.    4 of them 1 and done.   

2 of them 4 and 0 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	Sk	Yds	Sk%	NY/A	ANY/A	4QC	GWD
Career				12	12	8-4	242	400	60.5	2815	18	4.5	9	2.3	139	72	7.0	6.9	11.6	234.6	87.4	27	155	6.3	6.23	6.12	4	5
2005	24	NYG	QB	1	1	0-1	10	18	55.6	113	0	0.0	3	16.7	6	25	6.3	-1.2	11.3	113.0	35.0	4	22	18.2	4.14	-2.00
2006	25	NYG	QB	1	1	0-1	16	27	59.3	161	2	7.4	1	3.7	7	29	6.0	5.8	10.1	161.0	85.6	1	7	3.6	5.50	5.32
2007	26	NYG	QB	4	4	4-0	72	119	60.5	854	6	5.0	1	0.8	46	52	7.2	7.8	11.9	213.5	95.7	9	47	7.0	6.30	6.89	2	3
2008*	27	NYG	QB	1	1	0-1	15	29	51.7	169	0	0.0	2	6.9	7	34	5.8	2.7	11.3	169.0	40.7	0	0	0.0	5.83	2.72
2011*	30	NYG	QB	4	4	4-0	106	163	65.0	1219	9	5.5	1	0.6	61	72	7.5	8.3	11.5	304.8	103.3	11	75	6.3	6.57	7.35	2	2
2016	35	NYG	QB	1	1	0-1	23	44	52.3	299	1	2.3	1	2.3	12	51	6.8	6.2	13.0	299.0	72.1	2	4	4.3	6.41	5.87

[Thelonebillsfan]

He could win the SB and I'd still move off him.

A 3-4 game sample size shouldn't change ANYTHING. You know who Jimmy is, you spent all those assets on Lance, at a point you have to rip the bandaid off.

[squire12]

1 minute ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

He could win the SB and I'd still move off him.

A 3-4 game sample size shouldn't change ANYTHING. You know who Jimmy is, you spent all those assets on Lance, at a point you have to rip the bandaid off.

yeah, after making the move to get Lance, it almost 100% has to be Lance starting in 2022 and Jimmy being somewhere else

[Dub_City30]

3 hours ago, Manny/Patrick said:

I love Jimmy and wish him the best in his career, but he isn’t it. He is just like Kaepernick and even though he tied the game, we should have been ahead by way more before the Titans came back. This is his last year here and maybe he can upset the cowboys or bucs, but he will get trashed in the championship game

IMHO Kaep had **** vison like Jimmy G but man Kaep at times could put a 50 yard pass in stride and his mobility made him dangerous, him in this offense throwing to wide open guys would be lethal asf.

[TecmoSuperJoe]

23 minutes ago, Dub_City30 said:

IMHO Kaep had **** vison like Jimmy G but man Kaep at times could put a 50 yard pass in stride and his mobility made him dangerous, him in this offense throwing to wide open guys would be lethal asf.

Well, Shanahan had Colin in his office and said no thanks essentially. Or they couldn't agree to a contract. And that's when Kyle had nothing at QB to start off as 49ers head coach. If he thought Colin was that special he along with Lynch probably would have acquiesced to a degree financially. 

Edited December 26, 2021 by TecmoSuperJoe