jrry32 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Links? ESPN had the Rams at #1 in pass rush win rate at the end of the season. PFF had the Rams #2 in the NFL in pressure rate at the end of the December. The Rams finished #3 in sacks (a stat that involves no subjectivity). PFR has them at #26. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, jrry32 said: ESPN had the Rams at #1 in pass rush win rate at the end of the season. PFF had the Rams #2 in the NFL in pressure rate at the end of the December. The Rams finished #3 in sacks (a stat that involves no subjectivity). PFR has them at #26. PFF also had the Cowboys as the best OL in the NFL when we were objectively terrible the second half of the season and gave up 48% pressure rate against the 9ers (worst by any team in the playoffs). So forgive me for excluding them. ESPN win rate also is not subjective, like sacks. Its measured in seconds, not opinions. But I am pretty sure PFR pressure rate is also not subjective. They measure by plays when a defender gets within a yard of the QB, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 It would be crazy if Rams broke the postseason sack record and Burrow n Co somehow managed to win. Still can't make my mind up who to root for. Both deserve it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: PFF also had the Cowboys as the best OL in the NFL when we were objectively terrible the second half of the season and gave up 48% pressure rate against the 9ers (worst by any team in the playoffs). So forgive me for excluding them. ESPN win rate also is not subjective, like sacks. Its measured in seconds, not opinions. But I am pretty sure PFR pressure rate is also not subjective. They measure by plays when a defender gets within a yard of the QB, IIRC. PFF's pressure rate would be based on the same sort of criteria as PFR's. One need only apply the eye test to know that the Rams' defense wasn't one of the worst in the NFL this year at pressuring the QB. The idea that the Rams finished #1 in pass rush win rate, #3 in sacks, and #26 in pressure rate . . . that doesn't make much sense. Ask Tom Brady and Kyler Murray if the Rams can get pressure. My mind is blown right now that there's actually a debate around whether the Rams can pressure the QB lol. Edited February 2, 2022 by jrry32 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, jrry32 said: PFF's pressure rate would be based on the same sort of criteria as PFR's. One need only apply the eye test to know that the Rams' defense wasn't one of the worst in the NFL this year at pressuring the QB. The idea that the Rams finished #1 in pass rush win rate, #3 in sacks, and #26 in pressure rate . . . that doesn't make much sense. Ask Tom Brady and Kyler Murray if the Rams can get pressure. The Rams pressured both on around 40% of their snaps. My mind is blown right now that there's actually a debate around whether the Rams can pressure the QB lol. Is it a debate or a conversation? Most of us didnt watch but a few Rams games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Is it a debate or a conversation? Most of us didnt watch but a few Rams games. Whatever you want to label it, I'm surprised it's a question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 42 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: 1. Ramsey is better than any CB - by far - than the Bengals have played all season. Williams regressed this year, but our pass defense was very good overall, and as jrry pointed out, we do a good job of limiting those explosives. 2. This is a fairly crazy question, IMO. Do you think Awuzie and Apple can really cover Kupp and OBJ man to man? It's more likely that the Bengals would have to drop 8 into coverage. But unlike the Chiefs, we will just run the ball. But if Stafford has time, Kupp or OBJ should be able to get open. We also pressured the Bucs closer to 40% of dropbacks, so it's not a given that it will only be 25%. Is it crazy? They did a great job on those scrubs Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) I think a lot of us look at the Tennessee game under a magnifying glass in terms of the Bengals offensive line, because when you get down to it, they weren't even the worst OL in the division. KC isn't a good pass rush measuring stick compared to the Rams but the Bengals were way better this past week than the week before. Edited February 2, 2022 by BullsandBroncos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, theJ said: 47 minutes ago, FrantikRam said: 2. This is a fairly crazy question, IMO. Do you think Awuzie and Apple can really cover Kupp and OBJ man to man? It's more likely that the Bengals would have to drop 8 into coverage. But unlike the Chiefs, we will just run the ball. But if Stafford has time, Kupp or OBJ should be able to get open. We also pressured the Bucs closer to 40% of dropbacks, so it's not a given that it will only be 25%. Is it crazy? They did a great job on those scrubs Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Chido is massively underrated. I have never seen a more unlucky DB in the world. He was always in perfect position, then the QB would throw a dime that was finger tip caught by the WR. It was unreal. It felt like 25%-50% of the receptions he gave up with us were miracle catches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matts4313 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, TheRealMcCoy said: 😭🤣 Rumor is 97% of that crime is @El Ramster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocky_rams Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Rumor is 97% of that crime is @El Ramster He’s the leader of the Syndicate. When anyone comes to LA they have to check in with @El Ramster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, theJ said: Is it crazy? They did a great job on those scrubs Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Hill and Kelce both had respectable games, and they're different types of weapons than a guy like Kupp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, theJ said: Is it crazy? They did a great job on those scrubs Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. Do you mean when they were dropping 8 into coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 59 minutes ago, jrry32 said: Hill and Kelce both had respectable games, and they're different types of weapons than a guy like Kupp. i honestly don't know what was crazy about the question. i came here to discuss x's and o's, but seems we're getting into appendage measuring contests. i'll go back to following the twitter analysists. peace out guys! enjoy the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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