KhanYouDigIt Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: As opposed to....a #1? A #2? A #3? I think he's a low-end #2/high-end #3, yeah. If he can be that 2, it would be ideal. They really need a #1. They need to do everything possible to find one in the Draft. Last season we were watching drop after drop, receivers not knowing depth of their routes, receivers running into each other, no separation and etc. If they go into next year with: One of: London/Williams/Pickens (most likely) Kirk (slot) Zay Jones Marvin Jones Shenault Agnew With Engram and Arnold also at TE, I would be content. It trumps what we were running out there last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: cuz you're paying a low-end #2 $18+M/year. Where did I say that the cost of Kirk wasn’t an overpay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Overpaying for average players in free agency who they plan to cut in 1/2 years is pretty much exactly why bad teams stay bad. Like, what am I missing here? You're gonna draft a WR1 and WR2 this year and then just throw that $100M away as a stopgap to those players? It doesn't make any sense. You could've bolstered your team elsewhere and still spent the draft capital on those WR's and gotten probably better WR's late in FA after cuts. Get good talent with the sheer amount of early of the round picks you have. ostracize that talent when they want to get paid when you get some success Forced to trade them or let them walk Have to spend that same money you refused to pay your homegrown talent on middling talent that hits the market to reach the cap floor Continue the loop of mediocrity 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Get good talent with the sheer amount of early of the round picks you have. ostracize that talent when they want to get paid when you get some success Forced to trade them or let them walk Have to spend that same money you refused to pay your homegrown talent on middling talent that hits the market to reach the cap floor Continue the loop of mediocrity The team who’s had by far the worst record in the NFL over the last decade with Blake Bortles, Blaine Gabbert, Chad Henne, Gardner Minshew, and Nick Foles starting the lion share of games prior to 2021 wasn’t ran successfully? Color me shocked. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, .Buzz said: The team who’s had by far the worst record in the NFL over the last decade with Blake Bortles, Blaine Gabbert, Chad Henne, Gardner Minshew, and Nick Foles starting the lion share of games prior to 2021 wasn’t ran successfully? Color me shocked. How dare you slander Foles, sir (Also if you guys can help us talk up Minshew to get a 4th we’d appreciate it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, Kiltman said: How dare you slander Foles, sir (Also if you guys can help us talk up Minshew to get a 4th we’d appreciate it) Whatever wizardry you guys did to him when you won a SB, props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, .Buzz said: Whatever wizardry you guys did to him when you won a SB, props. I’ll never understand how but it’ll forever be one of the amazing sports things that’s happened to my team. Like just a quick thought that we beat Brady with Nick Foles can cheer me up in the darkest of days. Part of him doing it in 2018 I 100% think was because everyone hated Wentz so much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kiltman said: Get good talent with the sheer amount of early of the round picks you have. ostracize that talent when they want to get paid when you get some success Forced to trade them or let them walk Have to spend that same money you refused to pay your homegrown talent on middling talent that hits the market to reach the cap floor Continue the loop of mediocrity The first four points you listed were done by previous regimes. There's not much that can be done about the past. As for the last bullet point, that is to be determined. People can pick at what we are paying the players we signed, but at least the team is making an attempt to get things going in the right direction. Last year we had what could turn out to be a pretty good draft. If we can add a good draft class in 2022, we should be well on our way to getting out of the "loop of mediocrity." Time will tell. I do expect a better season in 2022. 7-9 wins would be a sign of nice growth. Playoffs in 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 My Jets have been pretty quiet so far. And our GM hasn't touched Defense @ all yet. Any news of rumors on Stephon Gilmore and especially Marcus Williams? FS Marcus Williams has been one of my top 5 favorite potential FA targets heading into 2022's Free Agency. He's an impactful player and one who I'd love to see roam the secondary within (soon to be) a coach Robert Saleh led Defense. He'll be able to truly ball hawk while roaming Center Field for us. I can't help but get my hopes up. It's Free Agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: My Jets have been pretty quiet so far. And our GM hasn't touched Defense @ all yet. Any news of rumors on Stephon Gilmore and especially Marcus Williams? FS Marcus Williams has been one of my top 5 favorite potential FA targets heading into 2022's Free Agency. He's an impactful player and one who I'd love to see roam the secondary within (soon to be) a coach Robert Saleh led Defense. He'll be able to truly ball hawk while roaming Center Field for us. I can't help but get my hopes up. It's Free Agency. Nothing on Williams from what I've heard. 49ers and raiders appear to be the most active on Gilmore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 What's going on with Allen Robinson, I thought I read about Cleveland having him pretty much locked up or was that a false flag only asking because less than an hour ago he was still mentioned as a top available FA WR within an article I was reading. I know he hates the color green so just asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Jags have to pay the bad team tax. Probably more so than anyone else in league history after that legendary Urban debacle. their contracts were going to be over pays no matter who they signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Forge said: Nothing on Williams from what I've heard. 49ers and raiders appear to be the most active on Gilmore I'd imagine multiple teams would I'm just a little 🔥'd up only because one of our most famous Jets reports Rich Cimini mentioned two hours ago how both Marcus Williams and the Jets sharing mutual interest. It makes sense. Jets are still fully loaded and a Playmaking Ball Hawking Safety is something we haven't featured in decades not since Victor Green. I'm hoping for at least just 1 big name FA. Marcus Williams is my last remaining favorite left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingone Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Safety mkt still has some good guys left. I expect the Bucs to get one. I wonder who Brady has in mind. Edited March 15, 2022 by ravishingone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, .Buzz said: Where did I say that the cost of Kirk wasn’t an overpay? THIS HAS BEEN MY WHOLE POINT SINCE THE START OF THIS WTF LMFAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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