NYRaider Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 hours ago, BStanRamFan said: Seeing what Adams and Hopkins went for, that would be waaaayyy too much. Deebo is not in that class of WR imo. 10/38 for the WRB1 is worth it dude was bodying up on the Rams last season, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 10/38 for the WRB1 is worth it dude was bodying up on the Rams last season, lol. In Shanahan's scheme, anyone was bodying the Rams in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, BStanRamFan said: In Shanahan's scheme, anyone was bodying the Rams in that role. Why hasn't Kyle ever used anyone like that before then? Deebo is also younger and was balling with Jimmy G, borderline NFL QB. Adams/Hill had first ballot HOF throwing them the rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, NYRaider said: 10/38 for the WRB1 is worth it dude was bodying up on the Rams last season, lol. Doesnt that sound like an injury waiting to happen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Doesnt that sound like an injury waiting to happen? If they try to use Hill like Deebo in Miami he will break like crystal dropped on the floor. Tyreek is not skinny but Deebo has like 30 lbs on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Doesnt that sound like an injury waiting to happen? Injuries are a part of the game, in a best case scenario the guys they take at 10/38 combined will be as impactful as Deebo. Can't ask Zach Wilson to be great with Berrios and Coleman, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Why hasn't Kyle ever used anyone like that before then? Deebo is also younger and was balling with Jimmy G, borderline NFL QB. Adams/Hill had first ballot HOF throwing them the rock. He never had to. It was done out of necessity due to injuries to their RB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The Texans are signing a legit good NFL player in Steven Nelson at CB. (2 for 10 maybe) This does not happen too often. Nice signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Dang I was hoping we'd bring Nelson in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 51 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Deebo is also younger and was balling with Jimmy G, borderline NFL QB. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 hours ago, BStanRamFan said: Seeing what Adams and Hopkins went for, that would be waaaayyy too much. Deebo is not in that class of WR imo. Hopkins was sort of a weird outlier. Obviously there have been multiple receiver trades before and after that move and that value was an obscene outlier. I wouldn't be shocked if Deebo gets what Adams gets. Adams is going into his age 30 season. Starting to get treacherous in terms of age. Not at all atypical for receivers, even elite ones, to start to fall apart. While you don't expect the Raiders to just get one good year from Adams, it wouldn't be at all atypical. In fact, they seem to acknowledge that in the way they set up his contract (it's basically a 1 year, 23M dollar contract with an option to make it 2/48 next March before jsut going year to year). The expectation from Deebo shouldn't be that you're just going to get one quality year from him at 26. So while he's not as good as Adams, of course, he's capable of putting up similar numbers and you're likely to get two very cheap years out of him at the front of his contract because he still has one year left on his rookie deal. So talent as a receiver isn't as good, but age, immediate contract cap hits are positive in his favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStanRamFan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, Forge said: Hopkins was sort of a weird outlier. Obviously there have been multiple receiver trades before and after that move and that value was an obscene outlier. I wouldn't be shocked if Deebo gets what Adams gets. Adams is going into his age 30 season. Starting to get treacherous in terms of age. Not at all atypical for receivers, even elite ones, to start to fall apart. While you don't expect the Raiders to just get one good year from Adams, it wouldn't be at all atypical. In fact, they seem to acknowledge that in the way they set up his contract (it's basically a 1 year, 23M dollar contract with an option to make it 2/48 next March before jsut going year to year). The expectation from Deebo shouldn't be that you're just going to get one quality year from him at 26. So while he's not as good as Adams, of course, he's capable of putting up similar numbers and you're likely to get two very cheap years out of him at the front of his contract because he still has one year left on his rookie deal. So talent as a receiver isn't as good, but age, immediate contract cap hits are positive in his favor. Fair. But the Jets aren't a "Deebo" away from being even a playoff contender. They need all of the assets they can get to add talent to that roster. I think getting weapons for Zack Wilson is a priority, I wouldn't do it for a player like Deebo. Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, etc...sure. These are guys with huge catch radiuses, can win in man coverage, stretch the field, win jumpballs, etc. But Deebo excelled in this unique role that Shanahan carved out for him and I'm not sure it's something the Jets can replicate. Keep the picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BStanRamFan said: Fair. But the Jets aren't a "Deebo" away from being even a playoff contender. They need all of the assets they can get to add talent to that roster. I think getting weapons for Zack Wilson is a priority, I wouldn't do it for a player like Deebo. Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, etc...sure. These are guys with huge catch radiuses, can win in man coverage, stretch the field, win jumpballs, etc. But Deebo excelled in this unique role that Shanahan carved out for him and I'm not sure it's something the Jets can replicate. Keep the picks. 100% agree. Don't think that they should make the move at all. I get that they are hungry for the receiver improvement, but I wouldn't make that move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: Lol. Wins are a QB stat, and Jimmy G is up there with the best of them. @ET80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: Wins are a QB stat, and Jimmy G is up there with the best of them. @ET80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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